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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    I'm not saying it won't be cool, but what does it really bring to the sport? Toyota is a huge market for Africa, but that's about it. Otherwise it's a joke honestly.

    From what I know so far, both TGR and Hyundai are completely against it even though they may say otherwise when being interviewed. I can only imagine M-Sport and Citroen are totally against it just from a budget stance.
    Not surprising the teams would hate it. A one-off suspension will need to be developed to have any hope of dealing with the mud and ruts. The aero will be compromised by rhino guards and roof mods, and the intakes and exhausts will have to be proofed against water. Not surprising that back in the day there were separate contracts for the WDC _ Waldegaard drove for Ford in his Championship year but Mercedes in the Safari and Cote d'Ivoire
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    Teams used to spend half a year testing for Safari alone, and they had semi-retired drivers and local specialists doing one-offs only for Safari. Back in those days Safari mattered to the manufacturers for marketing value, especially for the Japanese teams.

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    as you said in one of previous posts, times have changed

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    I'm not saying it won't be cool, but what does it really bring to the sport? Toyota is a huge market for Africa, but that's about it. Otherwise it's a joke honestly.

    From what I know so far, both TGR and Hyundai are completely against it even though they may say otherwise when being interviewed. I can only imagine M-Sport and Citroen are totally against it just from a budget stance.

    And here we go https://t.co/3R5xGwKwjW


    Lol. Useless money thief
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    Very sad to see if any traditional european round will be dropped from the calendar for this farce of a candidate event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Teams used to spend half a year testing for Safari alone, and they had semi-retired drivers and local specialists doing one-offs only for Safari. Back in those days Safari mattered to the manufacturers for marketing value, especially for the Japanese teams.
    I wrote a looong post about how Mitsubish and others had a crazy budget for the safari when Tommi was part of the team, but then I deleted it haha. They had some crazy budget of like 6 million just for the safari rally. It was something absurd.

    The good old days (90's) when drivers like Kenjiro Shinozuka would smoke some weed before going out and getting like 4-5th overall. At that time the teams had outfits in Kenya working on the cars. The Toyota's were listed as Toyota Team Kenya! Crazy times...

    Things have changed now. Drump and Kim Dong Fun are friends, we have tons of billionaire wannabe's on social media and kids are shooting their brains out from depression. Maybe I'm just an old 39 yr old who needs to get with the times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tc10a View Post
    Very sad to see if any traditional european round will be dropped from the calendar for this farce of a candidate event.
    Do you seriously consider Germany a 'traditional European round'....?

    C'mon.

    you must be joking.

    How is going to Africa for a rally a bad thing?

    It's called the 'World' Rally Championship. I can't believe the negativity about going to one of the major continents of the 'World'.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    Do you seriously consider Germany a 'traditional European round'....?

    C'mon.

    you must be joking.

    How is going to Africa for a rally a bad thing?

    It's called the 'World' Rally Championship. I can't believe the negativity about going to one of the major continents of the 'World'.....
    All regular participants in the main class are from one continent. A silly exotic excursion is not going to change that. 'World' should refer to where the participants come, not who is willing to pay most to host an event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Googol View Post
    All regular participants in the main class are from one continent. A silly exotic excursion is not going to change that. 'World' should refer to where the participants come, not who is willing to pay most to host an event.
    Amen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Googol View Post
    All regular participants in the main class are from one continent. A silly exotic excursion is not going to change that. 'World' should refer to where the participants come, not who is willing to pay most to host an event.
    It's easier to host an event in Africa than to find a championship-level driver from Argentina, Kenya or Japan.

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