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18th February 2018, 18:11 #31
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Colin Clark:
Gaining competitive advantage in motorsport has very often through the years been about taking an interpretation on rules that are grey. That’s exactly what Seb Ogier did, and I have no issues with that whatsoever. Don’t shout at Ogier, shout at the rule makers.
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18th February 2018, 18:24 #32
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18th February 2018, 18:43 #33
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I agree with that. We can all agree 2017 cars give drivers more equal performance, so now the situation is quite different from when the QS was banned. It's not like all of a sudden most drivers became as good as Ogier and can win rallies. The road conditions though are all the same. The sport rules must evolve together with the car rules.
"With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI
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18th February 2018, 19:53 #34
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18th February 2018, 20:09 #35
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Very smart & clever move - and entirely within the rules. It happens in all sports, you push the rules to the absolute limit, without going over them. I sometimes wonder whether some rally fans follow any other sports, such is their naivety.
If the FiA want to close this loophole, then it has to be for next year; changing rules in the season is a definite 'no no'. Though they might also want to look at the Rally2 regs as well.
Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???
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18th February 2018, 20:12 #36
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Weren't also Hyundai also using some tactics in some rallye(s) last year in Neuville's favor, hiding behind excuses with technical issues, or how about illegal car for the road without side mirrors? M-Sport are at least honest with us.
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"With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI
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18th February 2018, 20:17 #37
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18th February 2018, 20:23 #38
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It is tactics, but it's unsporting. Also, at least have the balls to do it as a man. From the GPS-trackers it seems like Ogier went on a small sideroad and hid behind a little farmhouse to not be seen. That would be extremely wimpy of him. To actually hide... (if this is indeed the actual thing)
However, they could agree to do just this. To make a point. It would cause havoc with TV-times, spectators etc. though.
Team orders in the second to last round of the championship is a different thing than to first hide, take a 4min10sec penalty to start late, then have the other guy in the team get a 4min20 sec penalty to gain back the spot in the second round of the championship.
There is a reason why very few bats an eye on team-orders at the end of the season... Same reason why many reacts to it at the start of the year!
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18th February 2018, 20:29 #39
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18th February 2018, 20:35 #40
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Maybe he had a call of nature and was polite not to do it in front of everyone?
Anyway, Evans didn`t "lose enough time".
1 FRA S. OGIER FRA J. INGRASSIA M-SPORT FORD WORLD RALLY TEAM FIESTA WRC M RC1 TC19 LATE 4:10.0
2:00.0
GBR E. EVANS GBR D. BARRITT M-SPORT FORD WORLD RALLY TEAM FIESTA WRC M RC1 TC19A LATE 4:20.0
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10. 2 GBR E. EVANS GBR D. BARRITT M-SPORT FORD WORLD RALLY TEAM M RC1 2:57:40.5 +1:43.0 +5:27.4
11. 1 FRA S. OGIER FRA J. INGRASSIA M-SPORT FORD WORLD RALLY TEAM M RC1 3:00:58.5 +3:18.0 +8:45.4
Did Jan Solans get 3 points for his 8th place at the end of saturday? Wikipedia and WRC site shows he didn't, eWRC shows he did.
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