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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    it's completely Ogier problems how return a timecard, but... somebody at stage-end TC told to Tanak to deliver Ogier time-card.
    It will be clearly that Ogier by car or foot goes back and took time-card back. But it cause a some TC late penalty. But now it must be an exclusion
    For me, exclusion only if Ogier dont present time card at TC 19A. But he was in time with time card on that time control. So from this point of view, no reason for exclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    For me, exclusion only if Ogier dont present time card at TC 19A. But he was in time with time card on that time control. So from this point of view, no reason for exclusion.
    Plan A. It's not allowed to give any assistance, correct? If Tanak helps him - it's an exclusion
    Plan B: drive back for own time-card. but
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    You can't drive back to TC. That's not allowed.
    it's an exclusion

    So car #1 can't be checked-in into TC19A. It's mean - retirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    Plan A. It's not allowed to give any assistance, correct? If Tanak helps him - it's an exclusion
    Plan B: drive back for own time-card. but

    it's an exclusion

    So car #1 can't be checked-in into TC19A. It's mean - retirement.
    I am not sure "it is not allowed to give any assistance". Check the regulations and tell me which article exactly was broken. He was penalised for breaking article 2.13, but I think nothing happened wrong according to this article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    10k itself is quite absurd for something not even in the regulations and looks more like blackmailing, but it is what it is..
    What? I'm pretty sure Ogier is glad the punishment is only 10k without time or points penalty. If it wasn't for Tanak, Ogier wouldn't had been able to finish the rally. Maybe the stewards would have found a way to allow him to finish with a time penalty, who knows...

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    its not clear if it was a driving error,or a mechanical failure of the arm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    Plan A. It's not allowed to give any assistance, correct?
    "2.13 PROHIBITED SERVICE
    The use or receipt by the crew of any manufactured materials (solid or liquid, unless supplied by the
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    ), spare parts, tools or equipment other than those carried in the competing car or the presence of
    team personnel as defined in Art. 48.2
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    Ogier has been making 10k a week for years so I'm sure he's just happy it stayed with that
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    Ogier has been making 10k a week for years so I'm sure he's just happy it stayed with that
    I doubt these fines are paid by the drivers...

    Again it should have been an exclusion...

    just put italians on my "nations and people i really really really dislike" list...
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