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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Why? There is no need for penalty, he was in time...
    Nice comeback dog. Now you can watch recap from start and then come back again when you will saw everything.

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    stage winners so far

    Tanak 31
    Neuville 29
    Ogier 19

    44 stages wins for Toyota
    41 stages for Hyundai
    26 stages for Ford

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Why? There is no need for penalty, he was in time...
    I miss a line... it was about TC19A but looks all fine there

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTR View Post
    Nice comeback dog. Now you can watch recap from start and then come back again when you will saw everything.
    Who are you again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Why? There is no need for penalty, he was in time...
    Because Tanak/ MJ gave 'outside physical assistance' to Ogier. Only the organisers probably could have done that within the rules.
    Therefore Ogier's timecard incident is likely to result in some type of penalty, potentially disqualification - What is similar Makinen(dsq) getting help to change the tyre at the Safari from the locals? https://www.nation.co.ke/news/1056-4...btz/index.html
    Last edited by Zeakiwi; 10th June 2018 at 12:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeakiwi View Post
    Because Tanak gave 'outside assistance' to Ogier. Only the organisers probably could have done that within the rules.
    Therefore Ogier's timecard incident is likely to result in some type of penalty, potentially disqualification - What is similar Makinen(dsq) getting help to change the tyre at the Safari from the locals?
    But KKS was writing about LATE penalty, which is different. Ogier was in time in TC with his timecard. Of course, penalty from stewards should be s different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeakiwi View Post
    Because Tanak/ MJ gave 'outside physical assistance' to Ogier. Only the organisers probably could have done that within the rules.
    Therefore Ogier's timecard incident is likely to result in some type of penalty, potentially disqualification - What is similar Makinen(dsq) getting help to change the tyre at the Safari from the locals? https://www.nation.co.ke/news/1056-4...btz/index.html
    And there is question, if bringing timecard by different crew is a problem against rules. I think that this is not completely clear according to regulations and it depends mainly on the stewards what they will want to find there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeakiwi View Post
    Because Tanak/ MJ gave 'outside physical assistance' to Ogier. Only the organisers probably could have done that within the rules.
    Therefore Ogier's timecard incident is likely to result in some type of penalty, potentially disqualification - What is similar Makinen(dsq) getting help to change the tyre at the Safari from the locals? https://www.nation.co.ke/news/1056-4...btz/index.html
    I don't think that this can be considered as an outside assistance. In my opinion this incident happened within a grey zone not clearly defined by the rules.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Is the Ogier incident like the Dakar Rally and like the Peterhansel saga. The French language rule interpretation will have to be checked against the English language rule translation ?

    The WRC rule books and technical regulations s provided to the wrc teams are likely to be more detailed than the pdf wrc rules posted online?
    Last edited by Zeakiwi; 10th June 2018 at 12:50.

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