[WRC] News & Rumours 2018

[WRC1]

What if we go in another direction of arguing about the slowest driver out there. Please don't count Qassimi, Block and other one off-s.

without a doubt: Mikkelsen... sorry for him but true

[jbmarcus21]

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[Allez Andruet]

Well I'm not n.o.t. to judge people's mind capabilities and throw random insults. Just wanted to know which indicator(s) makes a driver indisputable fastest as there are so many variables and circumstances, that I can never claim certain driver has been fastest 100%.

Easy now, it wasn't meant as an offence.

For me the fact that Tänak has absolutely smashed everyone on the number of fastest stage times tells enough. And ofcourse there are numerous variables. But, in our sport, we'll never be able to eliminate all those might-be-factors. That's why I tend to respect the statistics.

[mknight]

without a doubt: Mikkelsen... sorry for him but true

Using stage wins Evans is far slower (14 vs 3). The other drivers with fewer typically didn't do as many rallies, those that did almost as many are Suninen - 3, Breen - 7.

If you look at rally lead in addition to that Mikkelsen with 11 has significantly more stages in lead than Latvala (6) and Lappi (1). Evans and Suninen have 0, Breen 2.

So without a doubt he is at worst 4th from the bottom, without even trying to do a detalied comparison with the part time drivers (Østberg, Paddon, Sordo).

[stefanvv]

Easy now, it wasn't meant as an offence.

I never actually thought it was. You looked more self critical than anything else.

For me the fact that Tänak has absolutely smashed everyone on the number of fastest stage times tells enough. And ofcourse there are numerous variables. But, in our sport, we'll never be able to eliminate all those might-be-factors. That's why I tend to respect the statistics.

Statistics is a bitch. After 20 years no one would care who had the record number of stage times, but who was the champion. But don't worry, me too believe Tanak's time will come Almost sure it'll be next year already.

[AnttiL]

The problem with this kind of votings is that a driver alone cannot win a championship. He needs the car and the co-driver and the whole team with him. It's difficult to single out the best driver or the best car or the best co-driver when some combinations seem to work better than others.

[Allez Andruet]

Statistics is a bitch. After 20 years no one would care who had the record number of stage times, but who was the champion.

Well, it wasn't actually about who cares about what but how to define the fastest. Being a champ is one way to do it - but that's "statistics" as well, isn't it?

[steve.mandzij]

Is there a way on ewrc to compare drivers? I wonder who would be up on head to head statistics between Evans and Mikkelsen. Both drivers have been way below expectations this year; Evans has just been nowhere near the speed he was purported to have with the Dmacks but he did get a nice looking podium in Spain. Mikkelsen, for me, has been far worse, and his wet tarmac speed was tragic.

[stefanvv]

Well, it wasn't actually about who cares about what but how to define the fastest. Being a champ is one way to do it - but that's "statistics" as well, isn't it?

Sure, I still stand behind my statement giving someone as example (without even saying why) is not a "definition", I can give you dictionary link of that word, but You can use google Yourself I guess. Tanak himself certainly doesn't qualify to be in the dictionary as universal truth, it's more like to look behind fan glasses or call it how You wish, in the context of current world rally championship of course.

Anyway we're going off-topic for some time and might bore the people. Let's keep it on-topic.

[Allez Andruet]

You can use google Yourself I guess.

Sorry, but I prefer Altavista.