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    Quote Originally Posted by spiderem View Post
    No offense to Jourdan, but is it not a bit crazy to give this beast to a "not so experienced driver"? Rally is on a slow recovery with regards to general public acceptance, 1 major off with injuries or fatalities and the whole thing will be in jeopardy again... I guess we got away with Paddon's off in Monte 17 by the fact that it was the very first stage of the first rally of the new wrc era... Hope my fears won't materialize.
    PS i like the car livery though.
    He's only gonna be as much a risk as Sheikh Khalid or Armin Kremer; for starters, Kris Meeke would be a much greater risk.

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    Compare Kremer with Al-Qassimi and Serderidis is not good idea. Kremer is a good driver.

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    Seriously the argument about who is better than who is irrelevant. The FIA must think he is competent enough to drive the car. It doesn't matter what class the car is if there is an accident. The worst fatal crash involving spectators in Britain in recent times was caused by an R3 Citroen and not a WRC car. You could argue (if you must) that a WRC car driven by Works driver would more than likely be going faster than one driven by an amateur so any possible accident could be on a grander scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Dust won’t be as much of an issue
    No, but it's near impossible to overtake someone in the wineyeards.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd View Post
    Seriously the argument about who is better than who is irrelevant. The FIA must think he is competent enough to drive the car. It doesn't matter what class the car is if there is an accident. The worst fatal crash involving spectators in Britain in recent times was caused by an R3 Citroen and not a WRC car. You could argue (if you must) that a WRC car driven by Works driver would more than likely be going faster than one driven by an amateur so any possible accident could be on a grander scale.
    And when ogier passes by there are a lot more spectators on the road standing a lot closer than when sederditis passes by.

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    Rallirinki / Teemu
    Tommi Mäkinen Racing had a turnover of 67 m€ in 2017 (+48% /2016) and made a profit of 8,6 m€ (+115%). #WRC is good business for the team. Currently TGR's WRC base is moving to Tallinn, Estonia. After Germany cars won't return to Finland for rebuild.

    https://m.kauppalehti.fi/uutiset/toy...entti/fezdDH2J

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    Amount of profit they're making is so unreal. How Toyota even accepts that?
    Last edited by Essaj; 6th August 2018 at 00:10.

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    One option can be that they got bonuses for every podium and even better for first place since they weren't really expected to have many in the first year.
    Now when making the budget for the year they can't count they will get the bonuses and if they then get them they only add up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    Amount of profit they're making is so unreal. How Toyota even accepts that?
    Is it? Prodrive, M-Sport, TMR and anyone else who is effectively a motorsport agency for a manufacturer are in the game to make profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomhlord View Post
    Is it? Prodrive, M-Sport, TMR and anyone else who is effectively a motorsport agency for a manufacturer are in the game to make profit.
    Well had Toyota used their own factory/facilities in Köln they probably could have saved TMR profit at least..

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