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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    Budar said for next year Citroen will have a 1st driver capable winning on any surface.
    Got the idea that quote was about the car; he believes the C3 can now win on any surface.

    Anyway, is Latvala granted in Toyota next year? Besides Latvala (the only top driver possibly available) there are other options as good as Paddon: Suninen, he’ll be more experienced after this season and ready for a full WRC seat as a paid driver; Hanninen, he showed a strong pace during last season 2nd part and was still eager to compete; Tidemand: if Breen manages to deliver as team leader, the Swede would be great as second driver. And there’s also Sordo: he looks perfect to share the 3rd car with Ostberg or to get a full program, if he’s still interested.

    Bottom line: as long as Citroen gets a proper budget, signing competitive drivers won’t be that hard.
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    "We have fixed budget requirements in which everything is included, additional logistics costs have to be saved elsewhere, we manufacturers are all in the same boat and agree," says Citroen team principal Pierre Budar.
    So, together with the WRC promoter, they worked out a list of austerity measures. This involves, among other things, the compression of a World Cup run to shorten the length of stay on site, but above all to the deletion of the available test days.
    Enrolled teams are currently allowed to test for 55 days, and in the future only 30 will be allowed. Just by this measure could be financed according to internal calculations, two more Überseeläufe.

    However, there was no consensus on this point. Toyota should have spoken out against a restriction in the test days. It would be no surprise, because the troupe of Tommi Mäkinen has the largest budget in the World Rally Championship.

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    If Pierre Budar actually thinks that Citroen will be able to be competitive when they have even less time to work out the problems with their car, then Pierre Budar is a moron.

    Hey, why not save even more money and ban testing entirely, like the idiots in F1? That worked out really well for McLaren, Williams, Force India, Sauber, and Toro Rosso. They're saving loads and loads of money by not being able to test and having to make half-informed guesses at how they should set up the cars. And Ferrari and Mercedes are finding it so difficult to stay ahead of the rest of the field now that they can't just go out and test whenever they want. It's not like they can afford $50M indoor rolling-road facilities to get around the testing ban.

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    Pretty much. Cutting test days is totally stupid. Especially since every team has a short special stage on their backyards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Paddon is not "winning driver". He is on same level like Breen or Ostberg.
    Paddon is indeed a "winning driver" and, on his day, on same level as Neuville, Mikellsen, Tanak etc ... And capable of doing so on any surface when all his stars are aligned.
    Citroen will be looking at him but he'll be at Hyundai for 2019.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sollitt View Post
    Paddon is indeed a "winning driver" and, on his day, on same level as Neuville, Mikellsen, Tanak etc ... And capable of doing so on any surface when all his stars are aligned.
    on his day....

    all stars alligned....

    In other words he is not a winning driver... maybe he is a winner on social media wars.

    After that amazing argentina win he became nothing and remains there for far too long to be considered for anything, apart from NZ drives on village events to promote local car sales

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    In other words he is not a winning driver...
    Most people of sound mind N.O.T would know that to win in this game it has to be your day. There are too many variables, some of ones own making, others not, for it to be otherwise. He has already proven to be a "winning driver" and those of us who pay attention can see that he still has all the capability necessary. He just needs to go out and do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sollitt View Post
    Paddon is indeed a "winning driver" and, on his day, on same level as Neuville, Mikellsen, Tanak etc ... And capable of doing so on any surface when all his stars are aligned.
    Citroen will be looking at him but he'll be at Hyundai for 2019.
    Nothing against Paddon, but what Citroen needs more than anything for 2019 is a driver who's capable of winning every day. I.e. Citroen needs either Ogier, Neuville or Tänak and as the latter is contractually bound to Toyota for 2019, that leaves Ogier and Neuville for Budar to chase on.
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