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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    Then there are other youngsters, a bit higher level than hobby-drivers, who have beaten him or been more or less equal.
    Now all we need are names.
    ku ois neljä pyörää ku vetäis ni ois vähän eri sekunnit kyllä pätkillä, sen mä takaan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    Talsi-ralli 2016 - Kalle lead the event before the final stage, but lost 16s there for a reason I can't remember. Plus Samsonas' strong BMW suits well for those roads.
    Louna-Eesti ralli 2017 - Kalle finished 3rd, 15 seconds behind a WRC driver, + Kalle had 40s worth of time penalties.
    Kurzeme 2016 - Kalle drove part of the rally with only front wheel drive.

    He was 15 and 16 years old at the time.

    You can get annoyed by the hype and you can look at some of the results critically, but to downtalk his current talent is something I won't buy. No matter that he is brought up to be a rallying professional one day, he still is one of the most potential drivers out there. Same with OC Veiby, he has the backing but he sure as ever has the talent as well.

    For sure Kalle is not WRC-ready yet, but he's well on the path.
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    LOl @ people thinking Kalle is talentless. It sure is easy to be stupid and voice out your stupidness in 21-st century.

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    Most sports (not all) are dominated by people who started young and have lots of practice with little distractions hence I expect Kalle to make the grade. Mikkelsen through the wealth of his parents was driving a WRC car in the UK early doors and although he has yet to prove he is WRC Champion material its not done his career any harm.

    Every nationality has its "nearly men", drivers with bags of talent who for what ever reason (invariably money) have fallen by the wayside and it will always be the same especially when there are so few "works" seats to chase.
    Last edited by Sal the 2nd; 17th May 2018 at 12:55.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartusvuori View Post
    Louna-Eesti ralli 2017 - Kalle finished 3rd, 15 seconds behind a WRC driver, + Kalle had 40s worth of time penalties.
    Also first rally with new co-driver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    For example:
    https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/2...hampions-2016/
    https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/3...ti-ralli-2017/ +40 sec. for considerably shortening a stage.
    https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/2...-kurzeme-2016/ A bit old and can`t exactly remember, if it was an issue-free rally or not.

    Then there are other youngsters, a bit higher level than hobby-drivers, who have beaten him or been more or less equal.


    Like said, from the age of seven he has had the best available equipment, even quit school for rallying. Logical, but yet to show if he is not just young and "stupid", not afraid of crashes and he can develop into a title contender. And people already want him to be replace Latvala in a team with a goal to get the manu. title.
    No, most people who want Kalle to replace Latvala have no idea how these things works.
    For Kalle it's way better to stay in WRC2 for atleast the next season, he is no hurry to hop into a WRC car, that article about a possible change was written by Spanish media and if you know them they write that crap from every sport all the time.

    Hartusvuori nicely explained these already, but if you seriously don't know what that Martynas BMW can do you better check out the videos like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn5Z2Kly5rU or this before the car breaks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P3ALeoVpc0 there is absolutely no change to beat that with an R5 car and you really need to push with a WRC to match that.

    This whole battle here started because people said that Kalle aint a talent but is like any driver who has a lot of money behind him, who hasn't proven anything or won anything bla bla bla.
    If we keep talking about this subject more give us names, Juuso Nordgren could be one but what has he shown? Nothing yet.

    And what comes to Pluto and his comment "Kalle is with Skoda because of his money" just makes no sense from a guy who is "respected" forum poster, I'm just surprised he mentioned Juuso before picking someone from ERC.
    Last edited by Essaj; 17th May 2018 at 13:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Also first rally with new co-driver
    He got that penalty for considerably shortening a stage+ 10 for a false start, when reading the protocol.

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    To me Monte Carlo 2018 has been best rally for Kalle. Maybe that was just pure luck... (no talent)
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    Rich daddy or not, Kalle has shown some promise. Time will tell if he will make it or break it. Meanwhile we can follow his progress/regress. Enjoy it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    Hartusvuori nicely explained these already, but if you seriously don't know what that Martynas BMW can do you better check out the videos like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn5Z2Kly5rU or this before the car breaks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P3ALeoVpc0 there is absolutely no change to beat that with an R5 car and you really need to push with a WRC to match that.
    a proper driver would run circles around that overpowered geometric atrocity with an r5... emphasis on proper....
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