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    i am wondering if this was good thing or bad that in addition to being twisty, rough roads were also quite narrow. I believe Latvala mentioned before event that due to narrow roads there are less options to avoid things and choose other lines. But i believe this also kept speed down and at low speed drivers have more chance to react to stuff and avoid big problems. Similar roughness at 100+kmh is quite a bit more dangerous to car than at 60kmh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Yes, anyone young enough can enter JWRC... With Emils experience he was biggest favourite of JWRC, but I expected he will be more masterful.
    One could think that he should outpace all others. But there´s so many factors here. In my opinion this is/was his last chance of anything on an international basis. He took it, handled it and won. Nothing is done until it´s done. And he did it.

    With so many talented youngsters it´s not drive and win.

    However he did manage it and in the last round (I hate to say it) he was the guy who managed speed and consistency and endurance in the best way under the really hard circumstances this rally offered for these R2 cars.

    Very well deserved victory for Emil, and it will be interesting seeing him next year. Hopefully without the heavy economic pressure he will perform like the pace he has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    Talking about Emils´ performance...
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    My 2 cents on the rally roughness: it has been overrated. People perception was somehow influenced by some random images or footage (since the SD), the number of retirements or tire punctures (forgetting that some of them occurred in smoother roads and most punctures were due to WRC2 proved tire weakness) and the use of long twisty stages (which are tough by definition).
    From this interview (only parts related to the topic translated by me): https://sport.idnes.cz/jan-kopecky-t...motorsport_tof

    Question: How difficult was the Turkish rally which returned to the championship after eight years?

    Kopecký: I have mixed feelings from it. It was an extreme event which I didn't enjoy a lot. One is afraid if the car endure that even when Fabia is really tough and can endure a lot. I was thinking about tyres, not to puncture them or wear them to the canvas. It's not the most enjoyable driving then. Everybody wants to come back to the old times of rally but those are long gone. The rules are different, the cars are different and the conditions as well. Who compares that doesn't know what he's talking about.

    Question: What was crucial for the success in Turkey?

    Kopecký: To get to the finish one needs some racing, thinking and luck. There was not much of racing, only in sections which were clean and it was clear that there was no risk of damage to the car. That was maximum one half of the event.

    Question: Some drivers called the event a survival. Do You agree?

    Kopecký: For sure it was a difficult rally. it wasn't possible to go flat out. In that case the risk of retirement was enormous.

    Question: In WRC You won in the category for the fifth time of five starts. What's behind that?

    Kopecký: A big thanks belongs to Škoda. They built a really robust car which has nearly no technical problems. We haven't had any technical issue which would cause a retirement. I can't remember something like that. I am enormously happy about those five victories. But again I have to repeat that I have very mixed feelings from Turkey. Already after the test on Monday the car looked after fourty kilometers like after a whole rally. That's just braking the machinery. Novadays when everyone tries to save money such an event is senseless. I don't want to dissimulate, I didn't enjoy the weekend very much. I felt myself more comfortable in all previous events than here.
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    I hope I wasn’t missed in the forum but this rally was awesome to attend! Minimal spectators but excellent access points for those who attended.

    The scenery was epic and of course the competition!

    Who would have thought Tanak to win again and the two other boys out!








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    WUUUHHUUUUUUUUU! wow, couple of years ago I didnt even dream about 3 wins in a row.


    He didnt have the speed this weekend but the patience really paid off!


    Im ok with ONLY one rally in the calendar being rough one, something different to others. But if I could choose between Turkey or Poland, Turkey - New Zealand...then I would definitely choose Poland or New Zealand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    From this interview (only parts related to the topic translated by me): https://sport.idnes.cz/jan-kopecky-t...motorsport_tof

    Booo fawkin Hooooo.....Maybe he should switch to asfalt circuits...no bumps..

    This bullsh*t "the cars have changed" drives me nuts..Yes that have changed, they now have un-godly amount of suspension travel and extrmemly high quality suspension---I manufacture suspension I know what it was like 20-25 years ago..220mm travel max..
    So the cars have GREAT suspension and body shells they spend 5 to 7 times more man-hours reinforcing and caging and modifying....

    And this man complains about "it's too rough" ?
    What the fawk?

    What does he want? Every event identical? Perfectly perfect stages every km so its merely full gas all the time..

    Yes the WRC has changed...its full of softies and whingers.
    Closeted circuit racers maybe..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    From this interview (only parts related to the topic translated by me): https://sport.idnes.cz/jan-kopecky-t...motorsport_tof
    Kajetanowicz said something similar like Kopecky on Friday:

    "The second loop looked like a huge pile of stones, with route charted through it – and we have to drive on it. Even with extreme caution, it was quite easy to get a puncture and we also suffered. I think it would be really difficult to find someone who did not have any problems. You have to take a really unusual line on these roads, sometimes we have to weave on the straights. The road is unbelievably destroyed."
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    I saw part of the TV coverage with Anders Grøndal as commentator. He believed that Ford and Hyundai breaking more than Toyota might have to with the setup. Toyota possibly opting for stiffer setup to avoid bump-trough and reasoning it would also explain why Toyota drivers were complaining about lack of grip on friday.

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