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    Pontus Tidemand [SWE]

    What you think about Pontus future? With so many young guns appearing like Suninen, Lappi, Kalle, Huttunen,.... He will reach WRC top class?

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    I like how you mention everyone else with their surnames expect Kalle =D
    Pontus is actually in a really bad spot currently, he desperately needs to get away from R5's to at least get some WRC seat time for next year or he is going to be surpassed and forgotten in a year or two.
    But when your managers son is doing fine in wrc 2 and most of the focus is probably on him, Pontus must feel the pressure.
    I personally would like to see Pontus having a go on wrc but there is just way too many drivers for just so little amount of cars.
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    IMHO he hasn't shown any progress in last two years. I am afraid he will follow P-G Andersson's path.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    IMHO he hasn't shown any progress in last two years. I am afraid he will follow P-G Andersson's path.
    Haven't his progress been pretty equal with Lappi over their WRC-2 years? For me it seems so at least, and the Veiby will have the exact same progress as well. Looks like they are all going through just the same programme, and also managing to get the same progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    IMHO he hasn't shown any progress in last two years. I am afraid he will follow P-G Andersson's path.
    Have to agree here. To break into the top class you need to do something extraordinary already at rc2 level competition. He is not quicker than Mikkelsen or Kopecky (most of the time anyway) and at least Kopecky never managed to do anything extraordinary in his time in the WRC (arguably not really Mikkelsen either).

    Tidemand has been at this level for a while and he ain't going any further I'm pretty sure. There are bigger fish out there. Swedens time as a breeding ground for rally drivers is gone I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    . There are bigger fish out there. Swedens time as a breeding ground for rally drivers is gone I'm afraid.
    And just that there is something that is while obvious to see, the reasons are less clear..In fact its baffling..

    What has happened?
    This question is especially irritating when you live someplace where the quality and speed of the North American national series is so low that looking at even Swedish DM level events and drivers there leaves most wondering how the hell they are so fast comparatively..

    And yet so few to almost none go on to VM level..

    What has happened to the land that once produced plenty of potential top drivers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
    What has happened to the land that once produced plenty of potential top drivers?
    It goes in waves imo. Look at Finland 6-7 years ago Hirvonen and Latvala.. and then nothing. That said Sweden always had fewer rally drivers than Finland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    It goes in waves imo. Look at Finland 6-7 years ago Hirvonen and Latvala.. and then nothing. That said Sweden always had fewer rally drivers than Finland.
    And now Lappi and Suninen and in the future Rovanperä and Huttunen...Sweden hasn't really had WRC winning pace drivers after Kenneth Eriksson. Tidemand could be the next one.

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    Yes, Veiby is climbing. Another problem is Mikkelsen, that is the priority for 2018 season for EvenManagement right now. Unfortunatelly i have to agree with Mirek. At least PG had Suzuki ahah

    Yes Essaj, cause Rovanpëra i think in father eheh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    Yes Essaj, cause Rovanpëra i think in father eheh
    When I search for "Kalle" in ewrc-results, this is what I got (drivers only):

    Driver

    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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