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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    Not getting much PR for the championship win Toyota are they? Been a week and no posts from either Ott or Toyota...
    PR may work against Toyota at the moment - current message is "the World Champion didn't want to continue with the team" and it's up to everyone to interpret, why so. At the same time, Hyundai stole the glory. Quite sour title for Toyota at the moment, in the future - the fact stays, related emotions probably not.

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    Think it all depends on the manu title.

    If Toyota gets it they can still get maximum PR, you know winning both and best in the world etc. and that "one guy" is leaving, won't be so important.

    If they loose the manu title it would be almost like they won nothing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    Not getting much PR for the championship win Toyota are they? Been a week and no posts from either Ott or Toyota...
    Tanak's swap to Hyundai has pissed on their chips big-time.
    #M-SPORTER

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    That's their fault. Like in some other companies. If good and quality workers are leaving voluntarily than it must be something really wrong. And bosses could do anything, I mean really anything to keep them, but they don't. Like in this case.

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    Just to remember that when Michael Zotos left after some few months when yaris project started ,it was so strange for plenty of us.
    Zotos was Makinens chief engineer at Mitsubishi days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    That's their fault. Like in some other companies. If good and quality workers are leaving voluntarily than it must be something really wrong. And bosses could do anything, I mean really anything to keep them, but they don't. Like in this case.
    I think that TM probably thought that his bargaining position was stronger than it turned out to be. 1st - everybody agreed that Yaris is best car at the moment and it would make sense for Ott to stay; 2nd - Neuville and Ogier having signed contracts with their teams means that only MSport is viable alternative but their budget is not comparable to Toyota; 3rd - going to Hyundai or Citroen didnt seem like serious option, more like distraction, as at least in recent years usually every team tries to have one star driver and support drivers - having 2 stars in same team is very expensive and possibly damaging for climate. So one could forgive Tommi in playing it hard and calling Otts bluff until it turned out not to be bluff after all, but by then damage was done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    Not getting much PR for the championship win Toyota are they? Been a week and no posts from either Ott or Toyota...
    Yes, it's indeed strange, especially if I compare with Škoda milking the far less valuable WRC2 titles in every second advertisement (at least here).
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indreq View Post
    I think that TM probably thought that his bargaining position was stronger than it turned out to be. 1st - everybody agreed that Yaris is best car at the moment and it would make sense for Ott to stay; 2nd - Neuville and Ogier having signed contracts with their teams means that only MSport is viable alternative but their budget is not comparable to Toyota; 3rd - going to Hyundai or Citroen didnt seem like serious option, more like distraction, as at least in recent years usually every team tries to have one star driver and support drivers - having 2 stars in same team is very expensive and possibly damaging for climate. So one could forgive Tommi in playing it hard and calling Otts bluff until it turned out not to be bluff after all, but by then damage was done.
    I also believe this. Tommi thought he could get Tänak cheaper because he thought Tänak couldn't/wouldn't go elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Yes, it's indeed strange, especially if I compare with Škoda milking the far less valuable WRC2 titles in every second advertisement (at least here).
    I guess there's been some stuff going on in Estonia, but considering how crazy the fans are I'm surprised we haven't seen something like Petter's welcome home in 2003. Anything?
    The Skoda rally commercial has been running on TV even in Norway

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    Tänak wanted this time to come home quietly without disturbing.

    Welcome home and title party will be after Australia.
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