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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    Can the car be developed without jokers?
    yes it can be developed,but you cant have big evolution without jokers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    VW did it in their first...
    But VW made a car for the regulations they were going to enter with and took a year off with a future world champion to develop their car.

    Toyota had to make a 2017 spec car after developing the 2016 spec car for years with Hanninen as their test driver and without having had a S2000 car as a base (if the Skoda counts for VW).

    Still, VW was impressive and dominant from the start, that much is true.

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    with Ogier behind a wheel. and that's the difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    But VW made a car for the regulations they were going to enter with and took a year off with a future world champion to develop their car.

    Toyota had to make a 2017 spec car after developing the 2016 spec car for years with Hanninen as their test driver and without having had a S2000 car as a base (if the Skoda counts for VW).

    Still, VW was impressive and dominant from the start, that much is true.
    If You count the car generations as a fresh start, then M-Sport did a legendary job with semi-private team effort. But as Barreis said above it's one driver that can make the whole difference.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Like any other Toyota, it`s just a facelift, apart from that it has been around for a while...

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    VW did it in their first...
    Yes
    and Hyundai never.
    "quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    VW did it in their first...
    With so much competition around them.

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    Someone said somewhere, that Toyota will use one joker in 2019, according to Fowler, they will use all three with first one introduced for Mexico.

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    it was me, it was an interview with Ott around Rally Wales time or smth like that. im too lazy to search it.

    but you know well that estonian reporters quite often get lost in translation. so it can easily be a mistake.
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