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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    I believe that they will make only those 2500 pieces which are needed for homologation, so prices could go up...

    That happened with Celica "Carlos Sainz Limited Edition", used cars were more expensive than new ones.
    It's 25,000.

    "The GR Yaris will not be limited to just a few hundred units, instead Toyota will need to produce a full 25,000 next year in order to comply with WRC regulations."
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    Nope. it is 2500, like the rule says. Confirmed by D. Evans in Dirtfish and several other.
    Last edited by Tarmop; 6th March 2020 at 15:06.

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    GR-Four as it says on cars back tail is new recce car for TGR, 8 pieces are coming to Puuppola/Tallinn.

    Cars will be recce ready in summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    Nope. it is 2500, like the rule says. Confirmed by D. Evans in Dirtfish and several other.
    Can you show the proof. I read this...

    "Typically with WRC homologation requirements, you have to sell 25,000 examples of a base car, and 2500 of them have to be the model variant being homologated for rally. Wikipedia's helpful example highlights Subaru: to homologate the WRX for rallying, you have to sell 25,000 Imprezas and of those, 2500 have to be WRXes. But, the GR Yaris is so different than the standard Yaris, Toyota will have to sell 25,000 for homologation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Can you show the proof. I read this...

    "Typically with WRC homologation requirements, you have to sell 25,000 examples of a base car, and 2500 of them have to be the model variant being homologated for rally. Wikipedia's helpful example highlights Subaru: to homologate the WRX for rallying, you have to sell 25,000 Imprezas and of those, 2500 have to be WRXes. But, the GR Yaris is so different than the standard Yaris, Toyota will have to sell 25,000 for homologation."
    normal Yaris is only a 5-door model but, like already mentioned, they just need to make 2.500 3dr Yaris in order to match Gr.A basic body dimensions rules (one of the few limitations of the WRC Kit variant).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    normal Yaris is only a 5-door model but, like already mentioned, they just need to make 2.500 3dr Yaris in order to match Gr.A basic body dimensions rules (one of the few limitations of the WRC Kit variant).
    That would mean no need to make a GR4 version just some basic 3-door cars so why have they bothered ?

    The GR4 is much different to any other Yaris, its not just the number of doors. It has a lower coupe-style roofline and the wider body and arches. Toyota TGR wanted this for the WRC car for better aero, a wider track and better placement of the rear wing.

    https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ation-special/

    "This is a stunning machine and a true homologation special, for while it's unique four-wheel-drive system isn't eligible for WRC competition, the specialised, low-roof, lightweight three-door bodyshell most certainly is. To qualify to use the new car in the WRC, however, the company will have to build 25,000 road-going models in a single year."

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/new...road-unveiled/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    That would mean no need to make a GR4 version just some basic 3-door cars so why have they bothered ?

    The GR4 is much different to any other Yaris, its not just the number of doors. It has a lower coupe-style roofline and the wider body and arches. Toyota TGR wanted this for the WRC car for better aero, a wider track and better placement of the rear wing.

    https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ation-special/

    "This is a stunning machine and a true homologation special, for while it's unique four-wheel-drive system isn't eligible for WRC competition, the specialised, low-roof, lightweight three-door bodyshell most certainly is. To qualify to use the new car in the WRC, however, the company will have to build 25,000 road-going models in a single year."

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/new...road-unveiled/
    2500 GR4's will be sold in a week, at the right price they will sell 25 000 without any problem as well.
    Get started national rally cups with rabated cars will also help getting the numbers up!

    From the early tests it looks like a fun car to drive in road version, a rally version would be even better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    That would mean no need to make a GR4 version just some basic 3-door cars so why have they bothered ?

    Basic 3-door doesn´t excist...
    Normal "Made in France" Yaris is always 5-doors, GR-Four is "Made in Japan" and as you said differences are big, I have seen it Live few times (red, white and black color units so far)

    Ford Fiesta is only largely sold B-segment car which is still available in 3-doors.
    Clio, 208, C3, Corsa, Fabia, Ibiza, Polo, Rio, i20, Micra, Jazz ... only 5-doors
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    Basic 3-door doesn´t excist...
    Normal "Made in France" Yaris is always 5-doors, GR-Four is "Made in Japan" and as you said differences are big, I have seen it Live few times (red, white and black color units so far)

    Ford Fiesta is only largely sold B-segment car which is still available in 3-doors.
    Clio, 208, C3, Corsa, Fabia, Ibiza, Polo, Rio, i20, Micra, Jazz ... only 5-doors
    You miss my point. If it was just a 3-door version of the Yaris that TGR required then Toyota could just have made a simple 3-door version or a FWD hot-hatch for them.

    But Makinen told Toyoda they wanted a special version they could base the 2021 WRC car on, with lots of differences. This meant a very different 'homologation-special' was required - the Toyota GR Yaris doesn’t share a single body panel in common with the stock Yaris.

    This means that the GR Yaris is the 'basic car' that the 2021 WRC car will be based on and therefore 25,000 cars are required, not 2500.

    Autocar:
    "We’re not sure if Toyota will make the hatch a regular member of the band or restrict it to a limited-run homologation special. If it’s the latter, Toyota will build at least 25,000 of them to comply with WRC rules."

    CAR:
    "With most of the world turning to boring cars, Toyota has found its mojo with the GR brand and released another product hot on the heels of the recently relaunched Toyota Supra. What’s more, the Yaris GR isn’t just a limited run special, but it’s a 25k run of cars that is born out of the need to homologate its WRC car."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    You miss my point. If it was just a 3-door version of the Yaris that TGR required then Toyota could just have made a simple 3-door version or a FWD hot-hatch for them.
    If they built just a 3 door Yaris it wouldn’t sell. Hence why only one B-segment car is built in 3 door form nowadays... until this arrives!

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