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    Quote Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1 View Post
    Hey NOT

    Still think the Toyota are a “Barn” team?
    yes... Tanak carries them on his shoulders.

    they are nothing... and i would not be surprised if they fK up his chances on the following rallies either...

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    Latvala leaving Toyota could be also reasonable for himself. Does he want to continue in a team whose car fails him so often?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Latvala leaving Toyota could be also reasonable for himself. Does he want to continue in a team whose car fails him so often?
    If he will go to Citroen he will let go like Meeke. He needs his Ford back and that's it. Ogier To Citroen, because frenchies belong nowhere else than there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    Tanak carries them on his shoulders.
    Yet all three of them were able to set fastest stage times in Germany. Funny, isn't it?
    ku ois neljä pyörää ku vetäis ni ois vähän eri sekunnit kyllä pätkillä, sen mä takaan

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    Looking at stage winner stats for the season, Lappi is fourth and Latvala fifth. Tänak of course first. Three Toyotas in top five.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Looking at stage winner stats for the season, Lappi is fourth and Latvala fifth. Tänak of course first. Three Toyotas in top five.
    Stage winner stats are a bit biased by drivers (some drivers push for fastest times i rally2 while others just cruise and test set up) and for last few years also starting positions on gravel rallies.

    However when the numbers are big enough (over 15 for a season) they are the best indicators of pure speed.

    Note that "pure speed" does not mean you can win most rallies.
    Ex. a driver that wins 3 stages then crashes, goes to rally2 and then wins 3 more (partly due to start position) and crashes again. Doesn't really mean he could have won the rally.

    EDIT: Lately power stage points can also be used as an interesting indicator cause that's the one stage where just about everyone wants to push.
    Power stage points are also less biased by one good event. Ex. if a driver is really fast in one even he gets many stage wins. But only 1 set of PS points.
    Last edited by mknight; 20th August 2018 at 17:58.

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    Could someone help with link to stage wins count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indreq View Post
    Could someone help with link to stage wins count?
    This one is best cause it also lists per event and power stage points:

    http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/

    (scroll down)
    Last edited by mknight; 20th August 2018 at 17:57.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indreq View Post
    Could someone help with link to stage wins count?
    If you are a rallying fan, you need to learn about ewrc-results https://www.ewrc-results.com/season/

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    If you are a rallying fan, you need to learn about ewrc-results https://www.ewrc-results.com/season/
    planetemarcus has also PS stats - http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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