TOYOTA GAZOO Racing WRT

[Norm75]

You guys are talking as if the Impreza was a really unsuccessful car.
As far as I am aware, it won a few rallies.
Yes, the Evo is supposedly the better road car, but there has only been one driver capable of winning a world championship in it, whereas three different drivers managed it with the Subaru, so it can't be that bad!

[Mirek]

No, we are just saying that this symmetrical AWD layout is not some sort of wonder despite Subaru advertising it like that.

[Norm75]

No, we are just saying that this symmetrical AWD layout is not some sort of wonder despite Subaru advertising it like that.

It is what it is. As an every day road car it feels well balanced enough, is very neutral to drive, is capable of getting from a to b very quickly, and more importantly for a lot of people, is very easy to drive. I've no problem for my 19 year old to drive it as it is really not a difficult car to get on with.

As for Subaru talking up the benefits of their system, well they have always traded on their use of awd, there is no harm in trying to sell their product. It's not as if people have been lied to, nobody has died, it's not like vw or countless other manufacturers and their dieselgate scandals.

At the end of the day, it is a symmetrical system. The prop is central, the drive shafts are equal length, the engine and gearbox are longitudinal and the engine is a flat four with boxer firing order, so is more symetrical than most. Whether you can argue if this is a benefit or not, I don't think it is in doubt that they are a capable road and rally car, so something works.

[cali]

My experience with both street Evo's (4,8 and 9) and STI's is that EVO is much better in handling, more precise on turns, better front grip (less understeer compared to STI) and overall a better, more efficient and very stable car. STI is more fun though as on gravel you have to throw it more sideways while EVO just turns and goes. Couldn't believe how much grip I had with street car on street tyres when driving an EVO on gravel though. On icy lakes STI's were no match to the EVO's no matter who drove them. And I'm talking about purely street cars.

[BobJones]

Even the spam bot is bored of the Subaru/Toyota talk...

[dimviii]

Did you not read what I wrote!

yeap i read,and you compare a scubi with an audi to prove that ''its not heavy nose''
when you compare it with the true rival,its heavy nose.

[Andre Oliveira]

Ott and Latvala today in Circuito do Estoril in promotion movie.

[dimviii]

You guys are talking as if the Impreza was a really unsuccessful car.

nobody said that except you.We just said that the symmetrical driveshafts and the longitudinal position of engine is not a advantage,but a disadvantage at this car.All these because of boxer engine,that couldnt positioned different.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WTF has any of this to do with Toyota Gazoo Racing WRT ???

[Norm75]

WTF has any of this to do with Toyota Gazoo Racing WRT ???

Someone mentioned the new Toyota Yaris GR4 will use a Subaru awd system, I said it won't, the next Subaru will likely use the system on the Toyota, then a shitstorm about the benefits of blah blah blah. . .