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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Markko Märtin said loud and clear in Estonian autosport magazine last year that the car should handle those things.
    Reactor RBMK couldn't have exploded, but it did. Everything is possible and even things can be drive to that point when they simply break or led to complete failure. Even Ogier with his pace and misfortune, offs, crashes won last two titles and will probably won this one too. Never say never...

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Reactor RBMK couldn't have exploded, but it did. Everything is possible and even things can be drive to that point when they simply break or led to complete failure. Even Ogier with his pace and misfortune, offs, crashes won last two titles and will probably won this one too. Never say never...
    Just out of curiosity when was the last time before Toyota's problems any team had such rim breakages? Probably never. Only happened to Yaris WRC. So it's a engineering issue not a common issue widely known in rallying history ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    Just out of curiosity when was the last time before Toyota's problems any team had such rim breakages? Probably never. Only happened to Yaris WRC. So it's a engineering issue not a common issue widely known in rallying history ...
    I just put some examples when someone claim that Toyota should survive those impacts. Nothing is unbreakable. We all saw how much cutting is Tanak taking. Remember, Neuville anssd Sordo in Catalunya back then. With average 70 or more km/h and drive on gravel with stones it can happen. Too badly that this is ''tank'' Toyota. They know what they have to do and is their job. If not they will keep getting those results.

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    Oh, someone has been watching HBO`s new miniseries, which is quite good, but ...we are talking about repeating problems, not something that has happened once.

    Takamoto is Takamoto Katsuta, driver of the TGR development program, currently rallying in RC2 Fiesta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Reactor RBMK couldn't have exploded, but it did. Everything is possible and even things can be drive to that point when they simply break or led to complete failure. Even Ogier with his pace and misfortune, offs, crashes won last two titles and will probably won this one too. Never say never...
    All I learned from your post is that you have HBO.. joking..

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    The steering issue they had was a bad one to be honest. One thing a lot of people do not know is that Toyota team has been briefed to keep calm about vehicle issues. They do not want the brand to be hurt so they try to be very politically correct during interviews, but in the background it's a different story. In hot weather rallies they have a ton of issues... I mean everything from overheating dampers, hydraulic issues and fuel problems. With hydraulics they have had handbrake, brake, power steering issues and other issues.

    A lot of issues unfortunately are trial and error. M-Sport and Citroen knows what works and what doesn't based on past experience. With Toyota they are young and learning many things now. No excuses, but these things take time and as easy at it seems some components work as a group and it's not as easy as just replacing a single component and all things are good.

    JML's steering literally locked in place and he was not able to move it at all. This is similar to what happened to Tanak. They have had issues where the PS system gets too hot and they will break a tooth in the rack and pinion causing the system to lock and eventually fail. At the end of the day they would have had two Toyota's in the podium if it were not for these issues. TGR is a young team by all means and what makes it difficult is that they're a new team. It's not like Citroen taking a few years off and coming back... they still have their faithful suppliers unlike Toyota who is dealing with suppliers for a first time and many of these components are part of the TGR group who do not have WRC experience.

    I honestly think if Toyota had it all figured out these last few years would be boring as they would dominate the scene. At this rate the only way Neuville and Ogier will win is due to TGR issues... similar to last year and the year before with JML's issues.
    Thanks for this post....explains a lot.

    it seems their main issue over the years is heat and hot temperatures, plus rougher roads.

    Reading your post it seems to me a huge miracle that they survived and even came away with double podium in Turkey last year.

    As far as i remember They didnt have so many problems last year as this year already, thats what is depressing for me, you assume they get better with each year but so far N.O.T unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Reactor RBMK couldn't have exploded, but it did. Everything is possible and even things can be drive to that point when they simply break or led to complete failure. Even Ogier with his pace and misfortune, offs, crashes won last two titles and will probably won this one too. Never say never...
    OT, but still... RBMK 1000 reactor was i high potential Plutonium generator embedded in incendiary graphite. Combined with violation of safety rules and blocking safetysystems it was doomed to explode. Just FYI.
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    Takamoto will drive Yaris at Germany and Spain, cool!

    https://toyotagazooracing.com/releas...8MRlEPQyWVQYCo

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