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11th March 2020, 16:17 #1121
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11th March 2020, 17:18 #1125
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To spice things up: there are rumours confirming both arguments that there will be 2500 GR4 models and 23500 groceriegetters with "no engine", FWD and CVT just sharing the same body.
Prices also known: 33k in Germany, 37,4k for a "circuit pack" with LSDs, fancier seats etc.
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11th March 2020, 17:44 #1126
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Thanks for the link; it’s hard not to be surprised with that info, especialy once the FIA rules (at least the ones I know) don’t mention it.
From FIA article 255 of 1997 appendix J (the year WRC cars were introduced):
Article 255 – Specific regulations for touring cars (group A)
1) DEFINITION
Large scale production Touring Cars
2) HOMOLOGATION
At least 2.500 identical examples of these cars must have been manufactured in 12 consecutive months.
A “World Rally Car” (WR) is a variant of a fixed model of car, previously homologated in Group A and must therefore be assembled like a Group A vehicule.
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https://historicdb.fia.com/sites/def...j_1997_low.pdf
It makes pretty clear that WRC homologation variant must be based on an existing Gr.A model and a Group A model must be produced in 2.500 units.
Btw, it’s important to note that a variant is not a model by itself but an extension, mostly composed by a set of parts, in the homologation form of a base (Group A, in this case) model.
Finnaly, here’s article 031 of the 2020 FIA appendix J / Article 255 A, the specific regulations for WRC cars (WRC Kit Variant):
ART. 031: Original Car - The series production car homologated in Group A on which the WRC kit variant car is based.
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It can be downlowded by googling this:
ANNEXE J / APPENDIX J - ARTICLE 255A – 2020 ... - FiA
Basically, it says the same: WRC is not a model by itself but a variant of a homologated Group A base model; therefore there’s only the need to produce 2.500 units of a Group A car to achieve WRC variant homologation.Last edited by Rally Power; 11th March 2020 at 18:40. Reason: 2nd link change
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12th March 2020, 13:40 #1127
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"Some homologation specials relate very loosely to their racing cousins, but the GR Yaris is a proper job. The three-door shell and bodywork are bespoke. The roof is lowered by 91mm and made of carbon fibre, and the doors are frameless.
Underneath, it’s a merging of the Yaris chassis at the front, and the Corolla at the rear. This allows for clever double-wishbone suspension and that 4WD system. It even has a manual gearbox.
While the regular white-goods Yaris is built in France, the GR will be made at a specialised Gazoo Racing facility in Motomachi, Japan, using ‘a large number of manual processes’. As well as Gazoo Racing, the GR Yaris also had input from the WRC Tommi Makinen Racing team."
You can see from this how unique the GR Yaris is and totally different in every way from a standard (homologated) Yaris.
It is in essence a Yaris in name only - hence the requirement to make 25,000 units to homologate this new 2021 car.#M-SPORTER
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12th March 2020, 13:55 #1128
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Further clarification from: https://www.crankandpiston.com/new-t...y-2020-reveal/
"Why go to all the effort and expense of re-engineering things such as the roofline and axles for a homologation special ?
Gazoo Racing’s 2021 Yaris WRC car differs so much from the standard Yaris that this homologation model will need to be produced. In contrast to old Group N WRC rules, which required a limited number of closely related road-going examples to be produced in order to comply (think early Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution or Subaru WRX), today’s rules allow a wider chasm between the road and rally versions.
Venture outside these limitations, as Toyota Gazoo Racing looks to have done, and a far bigger production run is required to homologate the race car.
As such, the GR Yaris will not be limited to just a few hundred units, instead Toyota will need to produce a full 25,000 next year in order to comply with WRC regulations."#M-SPORTER
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Eddie, you can keep posting dozens of quotes from mags and sites but that’s not a clarification once they all got the same media pack from Toyota. What’s needed to clarify this matter is to know the exact FIA rule on which Toyota based the 25.000 units mention on their PR.
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13th March 2020, 12:01 #1130
For me it sound reasonable to remove Hybrid from the car in terms of cost saving. If I am not mistaken, one unit is ca 15% of the total car cost. And in most of the rallies, more than one unit is...
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