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    Read what I wrote. That "turbo 2WD issue" was only my opinion as spectator. Bigger problem is that FIA didnt showed what regulations will be for close future. Thats why some manufacturers, which were/are ready to start R2 project, are not working on it...

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    You are both right.

    Current R2T is boring to watch and Non Turbo production cars are dead.
    And FIA are very slow.
    "quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"

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    ERC U28 champion to win WRC drive:

    https://www.fiaerc.com/griebel-to-fl...-championship/

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    This is great news if it happens and touches on some of the things we talked about.

    A Hyundai young driver scheme - https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/ne...ai-wrc-scheme/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmi View Post
    This is great news if it happens and touches on some of the things we talked about.

    A Hyundai young driver scheme - https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/ne...ai-wrc-scheme/
    No criteria was used to select the 1st 16 drivers. The criteria for shortlisting final 8 drivers is unknown. They will end up with another Lefebvre.
    Better if they had use Driving Scheme program..

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    I agree that R1 is too weak enginewise, and R2 is too expensive for a youngster.

    Time to try to be concrete, on how a new class should look like.
    What way will then be the best way to develop the new car;
    1. Make a limit of 160 hp on the wheels of a R1+. Up to manufacturer to use 1600 NA or 1000 Turbo engine
    2. Make a R2- cheaper by making it simpler.

    Basic rules:
    Maximum 20 000 € for complete car, ready to race. Max 4000 € for the alternative suspension (gravel or asphalt)
    Possible to buy kit from manufacturer to build it youself.
    Tuners can build a car, no need for manufacturer homologation, as long as safety is approved by rules set by FIA.
    Minimum age: 16 years

    Ok guys, kill it - but you need to come with your own suggestion for a new class
    Last edited by Sulland; 3rd August 2017 at 21:36.

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    RALLY PYRAMID - THE TIERS 2020

    Rally 1: The very top of the pyramid. It’s where we’ll find the current generation World Rally Cars which headline the World Rally Championship. Not for sale.
    Rally 2: The sport's second tier, catering for R5 machinery past, present and future like the Skoda Fabia, Ford Fiesta and Hyundai i20. Aprox 250 000 Euro.
    R4 kit cars: aprox 150 000 Euro.
    Rally 3: A new low-cost four-wheel drive solution costing less than €100,000. Basically, this will be a 200bhp R2 car with a rear differential.
    Rally 4: Current R2 cars, such as those driven by Junior WRC contenders. Aprox 60 000 Euro.
    Rally 5: The wide base is designed for entry-level R1 cars, like M-Sport’s turbocharged one-litre Ford Fiesta R1 delivering around 150bhp. Non-turbo cars can run up to 1400cc. A sequential gearbox and improved suspension are the other highlights. Aprox 30-45 000 Euro. Depends how much work you can do yourself.

    Lets see if new Rally 5 and Rally 3 will be hits in national markets! Also if R4 Kit cars will take their role in 2020.

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