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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    Well, he isn't the fastest and most consistent outside of Rally1, really. At the very least, he seems to think he's faster and more consistent than he really is.

    What's for sure, is that there's a lack of both a clear-cut future talent ready for Rally1, and a solid, no-brainer former driver worth paying for.
    Tell me who is faster and more consistent then? Numbers and result not what you or someone else thinks.

    Suninen is not. Faster over 4 stages in Portugal, then slower in Sardinia, Estonia and Greece. Consistency is own story, after all Suninen was kicked from MSport after two first stage crashes last year, then topped it with PS stage on first WRC2 rally this year.

    Lindholm has not been faster on a rally yet, but so far this year he is as consistent so he could get there. Nobody else is close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masa90 View Post
    or other "new talent". It might go horribly wrong but atleast there is a chance to win something there.
    Lots of "new talent" this year. Fourmaux,(Greensmith), Loubet, Solberg, Huttunen in Finland.

    Not really working out (yet?), rather going horribly wrong. As for chances to win only one was anywhere near (Loubet).

    Hyundai isn't MSport so going with more."new talents" than Solberg would be very risky.

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    Do you really think that Huttunen is faster than Suninen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Lots of "new talent" this year. Fourmaux,(Greensmith), Loubet, Solberg, Huttunen in Finland.

    Not really working out (yet?), rather going horribly wrong. As for chances to win only one was anywhere near (Loubet).

    Hyundai isn't MSport so going with more."new talents" than Solberg would be very risky.

    Lol. Hard to put Huttunen in there when he basically got no test and car broke down every few stage. Fourmax, Loubet and Solberg are indeed showing what happens when too soon. Greensmith is not gonna make it. Sad but true.


    Quote Originally Posted by bandit12 View Post
    Do you really think that Huttunen is faster than Suninen?
    Propably not, but hard to say when not given a chance.

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    In an interview with Autosprint, Moncet justified the team orders to maintain positions in Greece – which have caused a disagreement with Tänak – "because it was the first time we could do a triple 1-2-3 in Hyundai's history and we shouldn't risk it" .

    They also state Moncet's opinion was that Tänak's title would not have vanished here (Greece), but it did in Sweden with a failure in the hybrid system.

    Make what you will of that !

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    Pointless to argue about that anymore..

    Hyundai(Neuville/Sordo) gave away extra possible 5 points to Toyota and 8-9 points to Kalle..

    ,,team Neuville''..

    Under Adamo they would have been much closer in points + putting ,,mind games'' pressure to Toyota and Kalle, but chose to do bs.

    Neuville deserved the win(IF allowed, Tänak may have put him under huge pressure on Sunday), but ,,man's(team principal) gotta do, what man's gotta do..'' this time he didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    In an interview with Autosprint, Moncet justified the team orders to maintain positions in Greece – which have caused a disagreement with Tänak – "because it was the first time we could do a triple 1-2-3 in Hyundai's history and we shouldn't risk it" .

    They also state Moncet's opinion was that Tänak's title would not have vanished here (Greece), but it did in Sweden with a failure in the hybrid system.

    Make what you will of that !
    Total bullshit.

    It would have been 1-2-3 anyway if swapped positions, I don’t see a difference

    That’s most the intriguing thing about this to me. When people say “but it’s the 1-2-3” what was important. It wouldn’t have changed anyway if they would have swapped
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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Total bullshit.

    It would have been 1-2-3 anyway if swapped positions, I don’t see a difference

    That’s most the intriguing thing about this to me. When people say “but it’s the 1-2-3” what was important. It wouldn’t have changed anyway if they would have swapped
    I don't know how difficult it would be swap the places in this particular rally situation. Team orders have happened before but I think its was more that it was taking the win off one driver to give to another that was more difficult.

    If his words about Rally Sweden costing Tanak the title are correct, it seems they had already conceded that Tanaks chances were already gone. The points for the Manu Ch'ship battle are all they care about now.
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    Hyundai WRT

    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    I don't know how difficult it would be swap the places in this particular rally situation.
    Just some road penalties for Neuville.
    Simple and effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    In an interview with Autosprint, Moncet justified the team orders to maintain positions in Greece – which have caused a disagreement with Tänak – "because it was the first time we could do a triple 1-2-3 in Hyundai's history and we shouldn't risk it" .

    They also state Moncet's opinion was that Tänak's title would not have vanished here (Greece), but it did in Sweden with a failure in the hybrid system.

    Make what you will of that !
    It is the only explanation they can give to this situation while not telling that they are team Neuville not team Hyundai.
    Like it has said many times since then, 1-2-3 would have happened also if Tänak and Neuville changed the positions.

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