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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Lappi’s Portugal 2017 wasn’t that flamboyant for the first two days. Suninen also spent the Poland Friday morning loop at the bottom positions.

    Still, difficult to judge as long as Katsuta is the only point of comparison.
    Exactly, hard to judge when we don't know the level of comparison. Based on his R5-resume, I didn't rate him that high. Lappi and Suninen were able to more or less hang in there with the big boys, right from the get-go, which I think is far superior from Katsuta's level. But who knows, maybe Katsuta's just being underrated? We'll find out (hopefully) in the future, once Takamoto-san gets his chance in the top league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    The easiest solution to this problem is sitting somewhere in New Zealand right now...
    If the offer of 1-2-3 events was available, he should've taken it. It keeps him relevant and in the mix, which is basically all he needs to do considering Mikkelsen's form since he moved to Hyundai.

    But Paddon seemingly turned that down which I do understand, but it seems more and more like he was cutting his nose off to spite his face...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Andruet View Post
    Have to say I was disappointed with Huttunen's performance. Yes, it was his first competitive outing in a World Rally Car, but still. That wasn't Meeke in that Yaris he was competing against. And that's not to take anything away from Katsuta. A clean and solid drive, well deserved victory for him.

    I guess mr. Adamo's headache about the third i20 WRC for Finland didn't get any better today...
    Exactly my thoughts. Sure Katsuta has much more experience and Yaris is likely significantly better on these roads, but in R5s Huttunen is also on completely different level than him.

    Not a bad rally from Huttunen, but as you say it doesn't invite for automatic Finland start. They will probably wait until his next rally in the car before deciding. (I believe he is supposed to do one more national rally in it?)

    I'd say if Paddon gets an offer for 2-4 rallies (out of FIN, TUR, GB, AUS) now he definitely needs to take it (one would make little sense though).

    Hyundai picks so far follow the scheme Neuville + "risky driver(with top 3 potential) " + " secure driver". The secure pick is normally Sordo, but in Sweden it was Mikkelsen and in Monte Loeb. Very hard to argue that Sordo will be a secure pick in Finland or GB and even harder to say he would have top potential on these rallies. I'd say this is why Sordo wasn't picked for Chile as it was kind of Finland/GB mix (+ off course the new rally factor) For Mikkelsen same is true in Finland (doesnt fit any of the roles), on the other rallies he fits the risky pick (with potential) role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Not a bad rally from Huttunen, but as you say it doesn't invite for automatic Finland start. They will probably wait until his next rally in the car before deciding. (I believe he is supposed to do one more national rally in it?)
    Yes, he will drive the WRC again in Pohjanmaa-ralli (next event in Finnish national championship) the same weekend the big boys are battling it out in Sardegna.
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    Well then its clear Hyundai will start picking after that weekend.

    Though if Mikkelsen does well in Sardinia it says very little of how he could drive in Finland. After all Neuville won Sardinia last year and Mikkelsen led it before gearbox issues and both were nowhere near the top in Finland. In that sense Huttunen's performance on similar stages is much more relevant.
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    I think it’s very difficult to judge Huttunen on this rally, as we don’t know what Katsuta level is either. If I was betting on Katsuta being fast in the WRC car in one place, it would be Finland...so unless he drives Rally Finland in a 4th Yaris, difficult to know whether Huttunen was impressive or not.
    For Paddon it’s a tough call, he needs to stay relevant but at the same time if he is only getting a one off, Finland is a tough place to jump in and shine and he could do his future more harm than good by driving.
    Given the option of Loeb, Sordo, Paddon or Huttunen (if we assume that Mikkelsen will be in) I would give Huttunen a go as he will be motivated, have good mileage in the car on similar roads and should benefit from the best road position..but then I’m not Adamo and it’s not my money ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    The easiest solution to this problem is sitting somewhere in New Zealand right now...
    His last rally in NZ will be June 22nd, As an aside I saw John Kennard a few weeks back and he is as fit and sharp as he ever was
    Things happen for reasons, not excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubled1978 View Post
    Given the option of Loeb, Sordo, Paddon or Huttunen (if we assume that Mikkelsen will be in) I would give Huttunen a go as he will be motivated, have good mileage in the car on similar roads and should benefit from the best road position..but then I’m not Adamo and it’s not my money ��
    Well Huttunen is clearly much better choice than Sordo. Even if he doesn't do well he should finish at about same position, but as a new driver he can only surprise, which Sordo really can't in Finland at this point.

    (Loeb said repeatedly he doesn't want to drive there, latest this week).

    If Paddon is signed for Finland it's not so easy to say who they pick. Paddon himself would be a bit of a risk after not driving for a while + if they introduce the aero changes they promised it will be a different car for him. In that case they might prefer Mikkelsen over Huttunen unless Huttunen does really well on his next national outing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    If the offer of 1-2-3 events was available, he should've taken it. It keeps him relevant and in the mix, which is basically all he needs to do considering Mikkelsen's form since he moved to Hyundai.

    But Paddon seemingly turned that down which I do understand, but it seems more and more like he was cutting his nose off to spite his face...
    I believe the original offer to Paddon was for only Rally Finland. However if I was Adamo I would be on the phone and offering Paddon Finland, Turkey, and Australia. But I'm a kiwi so probably a little biased!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grutz View Post
    I believe the original offer to Paddon was for only Rally Finland. However if I was Adamo I would be on the phone and offering Paddon Finland, Turkey, and Australia. But I'm a kiwi so probably a little biased!
    I would offer him the not only the remained of this season but the following three years too
    Things happen for reasons, not excuses.

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