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    I am not saying they should drop Sordo completely, but I am questioning that they should offer him 8 starts.

    With regard to Suninen pairing with Sordo. One big point against it is that Suninen actually has pretty bad record from the fast rallies where Sordo is bad.
    Best is 4th from Finland 2017 and only once since then has he been in any podium fight on them (Sweden 2019). Two WRC2 fastest rallies in Finland but that's against much less competition. His actually best results are from slow gravel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    With regard to Suninen pairing with Sordo. One big point against it is that Suninen actually has pretty bad record from the fast rallies where Sordo is bad.
    Best is 4th from Finland 2017 and only once since then has he been in any podium fight on them (Sweden 2019). Two WRC2 fastest rallies in Finland but that's against much less competition. His actually best results are from slow gravel.
    And that has nothing to do with Fiesta WRC being especially bad on fast events from 2018 onwards?
    Last edited by AnttiL; 17th November 2022 at 15:44.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    I am not saying they should drop Sordo completely, but I am questioning that they should offer him 8 starts.

    With regard to Suninen pairing with Sordo. One big point against it is that Suninen actually has pretty bad record from the fast rallies where Sordo is bad.
    Best is 4th from Finland 2017 and only once since then has he been in any podium fight on them (Sweden 2019). Two WRC2 fastest rallies in Finland but that's against much less competition. His actually best results are from slow gravel.
    You can't just blindly look at stats all the time without factoring in reasons for those results.
    Last edited by er88; 17th November 2022 at 16:01.

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    2018 Fiesta so bad, that Ogier only got 4 wins(equal to Tänak) and a WDC..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    And that has nothing to do with Fiesta WRC being especially bad on fast events from 2018 onwards?
    Sure it may.
    But when a driver "likes" some events but doesn't have results on them, there is no guarantee he will have results in a different car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TypeR View Post
    2018 Fiesta so bad, that Ogier only got 4 wins(equal to Tänak) and a WDC..
    On fast rallies.

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    What I would do if the case was between these 3 or 4 drivers would be to use 3 drivers with 4-5 rounds each.

    As listed each has own risks. This would spread the risk and avoid them getting "stuck" with someone. But most rounds should be set for each driver from the start. Not the "Adamo" approach of kicking drivers Sunday evening after a rally (Loeb Monte 2020, Mikkelsen Chile 2019).

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    but then what about Neuville?
    Last podium in Finland was 2013 with Fiesta.
    9 years later and still no podium in Finland with Hyundai.
    Tänak came to team, 2021 first ever podiums with Breen(for Hyundai) in Finland and 2022 victory.

    Can't blame only the car I think..


    Yes, it wasn't on the same performance level as Toyota, but the overal rather bad results weren't only because of that.
    Quite same as with Loubet in Hyundai.. some weird/older aero /spec didn't drive the car offroad..
    Last edited by TypeR; 17th November 2022 at 16:43.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    "Moreover, our customers can identify with the car as it is based on a production model and not some engineering fantasy....
    No longer applies.

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    Last edited by Andre Oliveira; 18th November 2022 at 06:56.

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