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    Quote Originally Posted by Lead View Post
    If Mikkelsen wants to keep his WRC career going, he needs to get out of this team fast and already start looking for a new contract (maybe Ford?). He had a plenty of time to adapt, tests, work on car settings or whatever. Its clear he and Hyundai doesnt match so thats that. And in process a co-driver change for him wouldnt mind also. Chile was a great example they both doesnt work as a team.
    Can you elaborate or perhaps link something about how Andreas and Anders isn't a good match? Not heard anything about that and didn't notice anything in perticular in Chile

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    In Chile Mikkelsen said he had written too optimisic notes and after the two moments (Friday afternoon and Saturday end of first stage) he stopped trusting them.

    Guess that's what he meant. I'd say that's basically drivers fault and not co-drivers.

    Anyway I agree that he should try to change teams no matter what happens rest of season. Driving part time and risking getting dropped every single rally is not something to long for.
    I see Citroen (extra car) as most likely. MSport not so sure. Wilson definitely aims for Tänak and if he gets him he doesn't need Mikkelsen (Evans works ok as 2nd driver atm). If he doesn't he might just stay in money making mode instead of using money on Mikkelsen, (which doesn't guarantee a shot at either title) . Toyota is also possible depending what happens with those 2, but Makinen picked Latvala over him at end of 2017, even with worse results. Might be Toyota boses could have a say if Toyota doesn't do that well this season.

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    And y would they want him now exactly? Cant c toyota pulling strings to replace a driver struggling with another thats struggling as much

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Toyota is also possible depending what happens with those 2, but Makinen picked Latvala over him at end of 2017, even with worse results. Might be Toyota boses could have a say if Toyota doesn't do that well this season.
    They sure have a say, but just as sure that won't be in favor of Mikkelsen. Whether you root for him or not, his 2019 (what we've seen so far) won't earn him a seat anywhere in 2020 without a substantial funding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Andruet View Post
    They sure have a say, but just as sure that won't be in favor of Mikkelsen. Whether you root for him or not, his 2019 (what we've seen so far) won't earn him a seat anywhere in 2020 without a substantial funding.
    Compare his 2019 with Latvala, Lappi, Suninen and Meeke (in about that order) all have as bad or worse season. 3 of these are even behind him in points after driving one more rally. Mikkelsen has highest manu point score per rally of all these as well as Loeb and Sordo.

    Just looking at the Toyota drivers driving arguably the fastest car (in Tanak's hands):

    Latvala best result 5th place, completely out of pace on Corsica, blaming notes (like Mikkelsen did in Chile). Note that Latvala has now 201 WRC starts, Mikkelsen has 105.

    Meeke best one 4th place, out of pace in Sweden. 4 rallies in a row with crashes (small or big) that cost him better result. 95 starts btw.

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    To answer your point, as I wrote I don't think it's likely that Toyota will be interested. But Mikkelsen suddenly becoming the worst driver there is that nobody would hire is a bit too much of a step.
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    Well I don't think Adamo is worried about Latvala or Meeke... He's working with what they have and they have Loeb

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    In today's WRC cars you just cant take a young talented guy (As Greensmith) and wait for good results from the beginning. Today's cars and rallyes need so much more know-how than ever, it really takes at least one year to learn.
    Problem as I see, is that after every season slowest guy or two drops. It has been like this for a long time, but the difference is that there is no-one who can replace them.
    IMO Lappi, Suninen and Tidemand are good examples. They were superfast in WRC2 but right when the new-era WRC cars came the gap between those two machines are too damn big.
    Maybe it's good, it differences the men from the boys. But maybe we will never see such amount of WRC drivers (part program also) as we did in early 2000's.
    In conclusion I think that if someone had to be dropped, in this moment Mikkelsen is the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Compare his 2019 with Latvala, Lappi, Suninen and Meeke (in about that order) all have as bad or worse season. 3 of these are even behind him in points after driving one more rally. Mikkelsen has highest manu point score per rally of all these as well as Loeb and Sordo.

    Just looking at the Toyota drivers driving arguably the fastest car (in Tanak's hands):

    Latvala best result 5th place, completely out of pace on Corsica, blaming notes (like Mikkelsen did in Chile). Note that Latvala has now 201 WRC starts, Mikkelsen has 105.

    Meeke best one 4th place, out of pace in Sweden. 4 rallies in a row with crashes (small or big) that cost him better result. 95 starts btw.

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    To answer your point, as I wrote I don't think it's likely that Toyota will be interested. But Mikkelsen suddenly becoming the worst driver there is that nobody would hire is a bit too much of a step.
    And has scored less points overall than loeb who has started an event less. Mikkleson has failed to score points on 2 of his 5 starts which again is poor. Loeb has brought points in every rally started.

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    Meeke has been unfortunate with puctures, not all of his making, one minor incident, and has been fast on every rally, 4th in championship, and only driver to have finished all rallies this season, and able to mix it consistently with top 3.

    He shouldnt be compared with Mikkelson in any shape or form.

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    Agree with that. The thing is Meeke is driving in Toyota much better than he was at Citroen (despite 5 wins and much more crashes). Why Mikkelsen wouldn't find pace somewhere else. If he can't get along with the car, he could maybe try in other teams. But he there are 3 guys who is as fast as him sitting out there somewhere. Ooops one more who have experience. Hanninen could be the guy. So there is plenty guys who can challenge for 4,5,6th places maybe ocassionaly 3rd ,2nd or even win.

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