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    Well I don't think Adamo is worried about Latvala or Meeke... He's working with what they have and they have Loeb

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    In today's WRC cars you just cant take a young talented guy (As Greensmith) and wait for good results from the beginning. Today's cars and rallyes need so much more know-how than ever, it really takes at least one year to learn.
    Problem as I see, is that after every season slowest guy or two drops. It has been like this for a long time, but the difference is that there is no-one who can replace them.
    IMO Lappi, Suninen and Tidemand are good examples. They were superfast in WRC2 but right when the new-era WRC cars came the gap between those two machines are too damn big.
    Maybe it's good, it differences the men from the boys. But maybe we will never see such amount of WRC drivers (part program also) as we did in early 2000's.
    In conclusion I think that if someone had to be dropped, in this moment Mikkelsen is the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Compare his 2019 with Latvala, Lappi, Suninen and Meeke (in about that order) all have as bad or worse season. 3 of these are even behind him in points after driving one more rally. Mikkelsen has highest manu point score per rally of all these as well as Loeb and Sordo.

    Just looking at the Toyota drivers driving arguably the fastest car (in Tanak's hands):

    Latvala best result 5th place, completely out of pace on Corsica, blaming notes (like Mikkelsen did in Chile). Note that Latvala has now 201 WRC starts, Mikkelsen has 105.

    Meeke best one 4th place, out of pace in Sweden. 4 rallies in a row with crashes (small or big) that cost him better result. 95 starts btw.

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    To answer your point, as I wrote I don't think it's likely that Toyota will be interested. But Mikkelsen suddenly becoming the worst driver there is that nobody would hire is a bit too much of a step.
    And has scored less points overall than loeb who has started an event less. Mikkleson has failed to score points on 2 of his 5 starts which again is poor. Loeb has brought points in every rally started.

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    Meeke has been unfortunate with puctures, not all of his making, one minor incident, and has been fast on every rally, 4th in championship, and only driver to have finished all rallies this season, and able to mix it consistently with top 3.

    He shouldnt be compared with Mikkelson in any shape or form.

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    Agree with that. The thing is Meeke is driving in Toyota much better than he was at Citroen (despite 5 wins and much more crashes). Why Mikkelsen wouldn't find pace somewhere else. If he can't get along with the car, he could maybe try in other teams. But he there are 3 guys who is as fast as him sitting out there somewhere. Ooops one more who have experience. Hanninen could be the guy. So there is plenty guys who can challenge for 4,5,6th places maybe ocassionaly 3rd ,2nd or even win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRW View Post
    In today's WRC cars you just cant take a young talented guy (As Greensmith) and wait for good results from the beginning. Today's cars and rallyes need so much more know-how than ever, it really takes at least one year to learn.
    Problem as I see, is that after every season slowest guy or two drops. It has been like this for a long time, but the difference is that there is no-one who can replace them.
    IMO Lappi, Suninen and Tidemand are good examples. They were superfast in WRC2 but right when the new-era WRC cars came the gap between those two machines are too damn big.
    Maybe it's good, it differences the men from the boys. But maybe we will never see such amount of WRC drivers (part program also) as we did in early 2000's.
    In conclusion I think that if someone had to be dropped, in this moment Mikkelsen is the guy.
    Well, Lappi did win Rally Finland in his 1st WRC attempt and it´s not the easiest event.
    Otherwise I agree.
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    Hyundai WRT

    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    Well, Lappi did win Rally Finland in his 1st WRC attempt and it´s not the easiest event.
    Otherwise I agree.
    Also won the power stage on his second event in SardegnA. Suninen won the fifth ever stage he did in a WRC car, in Poland

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    Andreas or even management: Give Malcolm a ring!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Andreas or even management: Give Malcolm a ring!
    Atleast in the past Even hasn't been too keen on paying for a drive.
    ku ois neljä pyörää ku vetäis ni ois vähän eri sekunnit kyllä pätkillä, sen mä takaan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Andruet View Post
    Atleast in the past Even hasn't been too keen on paying for a drive.
    Yep, that’s why Pontus left Even Management

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