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29th June 2016, 13:34 #81
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suprastate, not superstate
but you have a point, of course, just like Scotland or Catalonia may also whinge about superstates... what's the trouble with being both Scottish and British, or Catalan and Spanish?
Why must they be mutually exclusive?
... Other than to score a few jingo points and rouse the rabble, on either "side"...Last edited by donKey jote; 29th June 2016 at 13:44.
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29th June 2016, 13:42 #82
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True enough, but that's not country to country conflict.
South of us we've cozied up to men who have done the killing for us. We've taught their militarys and police how to torture and kill for decades down at Fort Brag, we give or sell them arms they cannot afford to help them kill their own people quicker and easier...
As for Canada, why would we fight with them when they have been the largest source of capital investment in Merikuh and are so complaint with us...INTERTWINED ECONOMIES...
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29th June 2016, 14:20 #83
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29th June 2016, 14:58 #84
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Actually I misspoke. I meant keep open trade, not merge economies. The US model, states (sovereign countries in Europe) and a national government (European Union) will never work for long in Europe. Free trade alliances ala North America make much more sense. And keep all else separate.
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29th June 2016, 18:23 #85
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Thats my point. We joined something which has changed beyond all recognition. We joined thinking it would be only a trading organisation, but now its something so much more. Its like saying come to my birthday party, then after a couple of hours I say we are going to lay a patio. Not what we signed up for.
(I am not old enough to know exactly how people felt at the time, but this sums up what many feel I think)I still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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29th June 2016, 18:46 #86
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Is this a way to open a real discussion about what a new EU , including GB , could look like ?
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29th June 2016, 19:28 #87
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29th June 2016, 19:52 #88
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29th June 2016, 22:08 #89
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The normal working people didnt really did they and they are the ones that have voted to leave. All a lot of them see is the start of a European super state. Which many dont want. There is no point saying they are wrong. Thats what the feel and maybe why some of them voted that way. Plus the UK never committed fully to it by having lots of special let offs, so obviously couldnt change it and didnt want to commit to the future.
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29th June 2016, 22:58 #90
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Certainly , we could discuss it , too , but I meant to ask if perhaps the parties involved directly might see fit to discuss what is wrong with the agreement , especially now that one of them has asked for a divorce .
Article 50 has not been put forward yet .
There is no deadline , and there is lots of time for talking about making it better .
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