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    Perhaps the first major multi-lap motor race held on a closed course running only in a clockwise direction:

    The 10 lap Vanderbilt Cup Race run on Long Island in 1904.

    1st-George Heath in a Panhard 70 at 5h26m45s
    2nd-Albert Clement in a Clement-Bayard
    3rd-Herbert Lyttle in a Pope Toledo
    4th-Charles Schmidt in a Packard

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    The last time Formula 1 cars raced on banking greater than 10 degrees in a WC evnt:

    1961 Italian Grand Prix won by Phil Hill in a Ferrari.

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    The last time a Formula 1 race was won by a front engine car (excluding vintage car events) was the non-Championship International Gold Cup at Oulton Park in 1961. Stirling Moss in the AWD Ferguson P99-Climax crossed the finish line first, 46 seconds ahead of Jack Brabham in a Cooper-Climax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Reid View Post
    The last time Formula 1 cars raced on banking greater than 10 degrees in a WC evnt:

    1961 Italian Grand Prix won by Phil Hill in a Ferrari.

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    He also won the last F1 WC race for a front engined car at the 1960 Italian GP. Hill always ran well at Monza winning 2 of his 3 WC GPs there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Reid View Post
    The last time Formula 1 cars raced on banking greater than 10 degrees in a WC evnt:

    1961 Italian Grand Prix won by Phil Hill in a Ferrari.

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    In case people get confused, in the fictional film "Grand Prix" which was set in 1966 the Italian GP included the banking. Hence you can find photos of 1966 cars on the banking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Type View Post
    In case people get confused, in the fictional film "Grand Prix" which was set in 1966 the Italian GP included the banking. Hence you can find photos of 1966 cars on the banking.
    These 66 cars would be the made up F3 ones used to simulate F1 cars for the film. Real F1 footage was shot and used in the film, but not from the Monza banking.

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    The first time Championship (AAA/USAC/Indy) Cars (excluding preliminary trials the same day) raced on a track with turns banked at least 30 degrees was the 100 mile event run at the Los Angeles Motordrome on April 8 of 1910. Ray Harroun came in first driving a Marmon.

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    The last time Championship (AAA/USAC/Indy) Cars raced on a track with turns banked at least 30 degrees was the 100 mile event run at the Daytona International Speedway on April 4 of 1959. Jim Rathman came in first driving a Watson-Offenhauser. Driver George Amick crashed and died in the event and Marshall Teague was killed earlier testing an Indy car at the track.

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    How steep is the banking at Las Vegas where Dan Wheldon was killed?
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    Multi-car cluster-F#$%
    Oval course racing at that level is insane.
    Thirty some cars on that course.....yikes!
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