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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Gladly, in Açores there are spectators everywhere, in fact the whole Island stops to see the rally. Even so, Açores Rally organizers, alongside the national TV local center, broadcast live two stages on this year rally, plus the pre event street stage.…
    maybe erc could only run in these little islands and become something very classy and charming hehe
    Ibiza, Isla de Man, Capri, Sao Miguel, Samos.... (plus Açores, Canarias, Cyprus, Sardegna....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmmjvss View Post
    maybe erc could only run in these little islands and become something very classy and charming hehe
    Ibiza, Isla de Man, Capri, Sao Miguel, Samos.... (plus Açores, Canarias, Cyprus, Sardegna....)
    Classy and expensive 🤣🤣

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    Yes lets keep it on the mainland, the islands cost more than it tastes.
    keep it simple, keep cost down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiscorpun View Post
    This is my favorite thing about the european championship: You have a round in Italy and then the Italians kick some asses. Something I dont want to lose if the new promoter change something in erc rules as a whole cuz to me this is the point of erc. Having some full time drivers fighting the best in each country.
    And this is also what some of us have said that WRC have lost after the top class cars became a special car, and no longer allowed in regional and national series.

    This has always been the charm of Rally, that local drivers once a year can challenge the best drivers in equal machines, at least out of the box.

    I see the world championship as a lost case, since they chose to go hybrid. And that the support classes get very little airtime.

    We see that the quality of ERC and their teams and drivers have increased over the last few years. ERC has great potential, and need to get a system for events to swap btw being a WRC and ERC event, to get more variation for drivers.
    Up and coming events need to qualify via ERC, to compete for a WRC slot.

    RunningCosts in ERC need to be kept at a minimum, with good deals for tyres, fuel and so on via sponsors.
    Same with fees to FIA, should be kept at a minimum, both for teams and drivers in the different championship classes.

    And to make the job easier for drivers, when selling ERC as a product to their potential sponsors, the promotor need to give airtime to all classes from ERC1 to ERC4 and GT.
    All classes need their own daily sumup program for drivers to shine and give their sponsors something to show their workforce and customers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd View Post
    What I sincerely hope is that the promoter uses it properly and not just an easy rotation tool to appease European organisers whilst it goes off chasing $$ from the highest bidders in the rest of the world.

    There is the potential for the ERC to become quite a thing however it needs investment and not just be hidden behind yet another paywall otherwise that potential will be lost. The other thing that needs to happen is that it becomes a proper geographically spread ERC with at least one round in Scandinavia, yes there is still a strong Eastern European presence amongst the crews just now, however the current calendar favours them too much. Ok so it will possibly increase costs and potentially mean some of the Polish and Czech crews may drop out however a French round, a British/Irish round and one in Finland/Sweden would make it a worthy alternative to the WRC as a "stepping stone". Appreciate this year is shaped by Covid but am looking to 22 and beyond for something more inventive.
    I dont think it is necessary to have at least one round in Scandinavia. There are races in Latvia and also Poland, which are very similar and not so fat away from Scandinavia. And mainly - scandinavian (and Baltic) drivers needs to leave their territory and try something different - slow gravel and tarmac. That is their biggest problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd View Post
    Ok hear what you say however maybe the type of event as well as the location. A mix of slow and fast tar and gravel, not exact mirrors of WRC events but enough variety to show that drivers are adaptable rather than just specialists in one type of rally. I wouldnt want to go back to the co-efficient system however a bigger spread would be nice but not necessarily more costly if the series had proper backing. Have seen it in the Canary Islands where ferries have been heavily subsidised or even made free for competitors and its incentives like that which may help grease the wheels. Just a hope as tbh have enjoyed the ERC battles as much if mot more than the WRC in recent times
    Adding more events would be very wrong after many years of hard work achieved the reduction to a sensible amount of them. Eight events is perfectly fine number for ERC. No competitor wants or needs more.

    Regarding Scandinavia or other places. It's a deal of two sides. Where there is no serious interest from the organizers there is no point to try to organize something.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Organizers and drivers from France, Scandinavia or the British isles have rarely been interested in ERC, especially when one considers they're all big "rally nations". So it's not always easy to go to the places currently left untouched by the calendar.
    To me an event in Belgium, Germany, Austria or Switzerland would be nice to have, but for the rest I don't see big problems in the calendar. Barum is definitely central Europe, not East. Both the Hungarian and the Polish rallies are central-east Europe, while Liepaja is not far from Scandinavia.

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    The comeback of Ypres or Valais would be very nice indeed, but I think it's a choice of the organizers themselves as well. They left the ERC when it was in a slightly weaker form (as mentioned here too many events so many drivers skipped some). I bet they are now wondering if that was a smart thing to do...

    The championship and calendar are great as it is right now. Only thing that's a pity is we are seeing 2 events in Portugal, but no Portugese drivers competing in ERC, while they have quite a few fast drivers... I know the same could be said for Belgium for many years.

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