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    We have to have privateers, without them there isn't a rally. Who want's to see 4 factory cars competing and no one else. This is what has made the sport at all levels.

    I have been a novice, a club level, a state level, a national and finally an international competitor. We need all these levels and have people who are novice's dream about the day they can do a State round, then a National round and maybe one day compete at WRC. They are not there to win, but to live a dream and make up the numbers. We have to have them or there is no sport.

    And if you tell me I don't know anything then you don't know the sport that I live and love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    Why?
    because you lower the value of the product by allowing every dog to take part... they should be allowed to try but not continue after some years of useless driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    because you lower the value of the product by allowing every dog to take part... they should be allowed to try but not continue after some years of useless driving.
    Thats probably the most ridiculous statement ive heard. How has kubica and prokop lowered the value? If anything he has increased it. Im sure there are people who tune into check how kubica has done probably check out his crashes on youtube that raises the profile of the sport. Look at how vatanen and mcrae raised it in the 80s and 90s with their flat out driving and frequent crashes. Im not saying kubicas capable of being a world champ but kubica has every right to be a competitor on the stages theres only one type of person lowers the value of the product and thats biggots like you who run down a competitor who entertains and gives it his all yes prokop isnt a flat out flamboyant driver. But i dont see the czech team knocking on your door to drive their fiesta you really do let the rallying community down as far as i can remember rallying has always been about supporting each other
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    because you lower the value of the product by allowing every dog to take part... they should be allowed to try but not continue after some years of useless driving.
    Why not leave Ogier only in the championship? You would have the highest average value.

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    The sport and events can't survive with only works teams. Allowing Joe Bloggs on the same stages as the World Champion was always the sports unique selling point.

    I'm sure it was DR who was keen on cutting entry lists, so that the sport became more like F1 - another move which hasn't worked.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    because you lower the value of the product by allowing every dog to take part... they should be allowed to try but not continue after some years of useless driving.
    It is same situation like we should say to allow you to try to write into this forum and not continue after some years of useless writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    It is same situation like we should say to allow you to try to write into this forum and not continue after some years of useless writing.
    the problem is in the WRC you have a standard to compare, in a forum you do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    the problem is in the WRC you have a standard to compare, in a forum you do not.
    What is "standard"? And who is the person to decide what is standard and what isnt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    What is "standard"? And who is the person to decide what is standard and what isnt?
    In Rallying the standard is easy to be determined using the timer in most cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    In Rallying the standard is easy to be determined using the timer in most cases.
    Ok, so where is the cut off ? Who sets the cut off?

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