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1st November 2014, 14:52 #1
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So how do you feel about 14 cars?
Evidently, Bernardo doesn't see this as an issue, rather criticizing the teams that spend "only" 50-80 million as having their "begging bowls."
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1st November 2014, 15:18 #2
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Needless to say, 14 cars basically means a series is dead. Or at the very least about to die.
Can't believe Bernie will let it go that far, but it could be he has no choice given he has let F1 to fall into the state it has fallen. To give $100M to Ferrari for just showing up, while half of the field get nothing, is meant to cause issues one day.
The rich and successful may think that "poverty is the problem of the poor", but ignorance will hit them sooner or later too. Because big teams need smaller ones as well for healthy competition and for the series to actually exist.
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1st November 2014, 16:05 #3
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Quite so. You can't win unless you've beaten someone.
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1st November 2014, 16:25 #4
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If I'm not mistaken , this is the time for talk about how to redistribute the wealth , as , isn't today the day they are to sign on to next year ?
Lotus , Sauber and Force India have all made statements to this effect .
It is at this point , when the survival of the series is clearly at significant risk , that they MUST make a change .
They want to compete , so the formula , itself , isn't the issue .
Even the actual money to run is acceptable , if the series shared out the funds in a better way .
The money could still be more for those top manufacturers who reach the front , but the disparity between them and the tail-enders should be a lot less .Last edited by Bagwan; 1st November 2014 at 16:28.
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1st November 2014, 16:41 #5
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They had a serious proposal to cut costs and get more teams in but the existing teams threw it out.
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1st November 2014, 18:03 #6
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I'll tell you when it is a reality, but I think that theywill hammer something out and there will be 18 cars on the grid, with 20 in2016. Bernie won't let it go that far, he’s talking shit now but he will bucklebehind closed doors, and it’s pathetic that that is the way he does business,because they need sweeping changes in the way profits are distributed. My opinionof him and his constant tinkering with the formula hasn't changed, and wouldreally like to see that little miser over throne, but I've felt that way formany years. I’ll be fine with 18 cars.
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1st November 2014, 19:16 #7
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I want 26 cars FFS.
I know it won't happen, but I want itI still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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1st November 2014, 22:32 #8
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Its a sorry state of affairs when 2 team are going bankcrupt ,and maybe 2 others are complaining about their state of affairs.
IF Bernie is paying Ferrari $100 million ,just to turn up ,then why do some of the others not get a help too ?
Probably 14 of the current drivers get payed whilst the others are pay drivers .
There is money about ,as Mac/Honda have reportedly offered Alonso 35 Million Eu to drive next year .
Its a case of them and US .BUT US need them (The smaller teams ) to make the numbers up ,and overtaking interesting too
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2nd November 2014, 00:55 #9
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Apparently the proposed boycott has gotten his attention.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...141101?rpc=401Last edited by Tazio; 2nd November 2014 at 00:57.
May the forza be with you
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2nd November 2014, 02:03 #10
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14 cars? I wonder how bad it really has to be, before everyone backs down and does something to restructure F1?
Just think. People would still spend heaps of money going to watch that field lol
That's the limit of an F1 field. In hindsight, it's poor form that the F1 "economy" isn't tailored to that. 20 is as bad as 18. But there must some negative psychological effect of having 20<.
As someone who benefited as a result of "winning" a single field in my class a couple of times, I can tell you that it's an empty feeling. I gladly take the points towards the standings, but that's it.
Wet conditions. Portuguese Autosport brought something to the table... the WRC2 crews are using a WRC spec tyre that is harder than the spec Meeke and other CPR runners are using.
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