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    Have they started a R2 project?
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    Can anyone imagine Etios R4 sedan..?

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    https://www.oreca.com/constructeur/#fia-r4

    Looking at the Oreca webpage, i find it only in french. Due to a pre-set browser that automatically translates I can read about their rally project, under racing.

    the pdf explaining and trying to sell it, looks fine, but I can only find it in french, and google translate says it is too large to translate...
    https://www.oreca.com/wp-content/upl...compressed.pdf

    If I am correct in that all are in french, that is special, in it being a FIA project.

    My take is that they need to have Rally easy to find on the front page, not under builder, or racing.
    All regarding R4 need to be in english
    Do not call it a reasonabel price, it is not.

    Build a few on speculation, and use Sarrazin and one more driver in WRC and ERC to show the potential. Rent two of them out cheap to whoever want to test it.

    If not it could be a stillborn!
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    The Baratec kits are extremely expensive. I do not see their 1600T setup being any cheaper than the R4 kits from Oreca. Bring back Group N in using Focus RS and Subaru WRX STI's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    https://www.oreca.com/constructeur/#fia-r4

    Looking at the Oreca webpage, i find it only in french. Due to a pre-set browser that automatically translates I can read about their rally project, under racing.

    the pdf explaining and trying to sell it, looks fine, but I can only find it in french, and google translate says it is too large to translate...
    https://www.oreca.com/wp-content/upl...compressed.pdf

    If I am correct in that all are in french, that is special, in it being a FIA project.

    My take is that they need to have Rally easy to find on the front page, not under builder, or racing.
    All regarding R4 need to be in english
    Do not call it a reasonabel price, it is not.

    Build a few on speculation, and use Sarrazin and one more driver in WRC and ERC to show the potential. Rent two of them out cheap to whoever want to test it.

    If not it could be a stillborn!
    Sorry, it is not so difficult to find it in english...

    https://www.oreca.com/en/manufacturer/#fia-r4

    https://www.oreca.com/wp-content/upl...compressed.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    The Baratec kits are extremely expensive. I do not see their 1600T setup being any cheaper than the R4 kits from Oreca. Bring back Group N in using Focus RS and Subaru WRX STI's
    how much the cost? I'm a bit curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    The Baratec kits are extremely expensive. I do not see their 1600T setup being any cheaper than the R4 kits from Oreca. Bring back Group N in using Focus RS and Subaru WRX STI's
    Spanish tuner RMC is selling full N5 cars (based on Baratec 1.6T MR’s) below R4 cars announced price. R4 tech concept is interesting and useful for the sport, but the main problem is to have a single supplier worldwide. It’d make more sense to implement an international regulation for the category and allow national tuners to build the cars according to those rules (a bit like AP4).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    but the main problem is to have a single supplier worldwide. It’d make more sense to implement an international regulation for the category and allow national tuners to build the cars according to those rules (a bit like AP4).
    That's totally the issue in my opinion as well. If you are trying to open the playing field to allow manufacturers/importers in arenas outside the reach of the WRC/ERC etc, to rally a car that may not be available other than on the local market then open it properly rather than restrict it with one kit supplier. Its not as if you are looking for parity like a one make series. IMO this is a circuit racing formula trying to applied to rallying and it isn't a fit.

    For anyone other than an importer in say Sth America or Asia then R4 doesnt add up cost wise when compared to an R5 or even top N4 machine
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    Is it known how many cars are buildt to date?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Is it known how many cars are buildt to date?
    Oren only sells KITīs, every team does building themselves. I donīt know how many KITīs have been sold.
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