Page 51 of 67 FirstFirst ... 41495051525361 ... LastLast
Results 501 to 510 of 665
  1. #501
    Senior Member Fast Eddie WRC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    England
    Posts
    18,780
    Like
    3,417
    Liked 9,309 Times in 4,937 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Our overseas members wrote here some time a go that due to taxes it's often extremely expensive to bring an R5 car into their countries while building their own R4 using a works kit can give them competitive FIA-eligible car which is much cheaper than the R5. In Europe it's different of course as here we have tons of used R5 available.
    Sorry for being Euro-centric guys !

    And I was also thinking the same about the amount of used R5's that will also attract drivers instead of an R4.

    Time will tell.

  2. #502
    Senior Member Jarek Z's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Wroclaw
    Posts
    8,564
    Like
    4,444
    Liked 3,289 Times in 1,731 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Where in the world does Toyota sell the Etios model?
    Maybe in Paraguay? They even have an official Toyota team in their rally championship with Toyota Etios R5.

    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

  3. #503
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    326
    Like
    18
    Liked 34 Times in 21 Posts
    [QUOTE=mArvAlcao17;1198131]"but R4 isn't a good option either"

    R4 may not be an option for you, but to conclude that R4 is generally a bad choice, will be incorrect.
    For all countries where ASN has not chosen to allow "home-made 4WD" or made its own rules / class, such as AP-dit or datt, R4 is the option it was supposed to be.
    If an importer or dealer organization wants to promote itself within rally, but represent a car brand that has not homologated an R5, they can build an R4.

  4. #504
    Senior Member Sulland's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    6,378
    Like
    2,005
    Liked 1,367 Times in 710 Posts
    So maybe Tommi will hire a local firm to build him a Yaris R4 now to start off junior drivers there before going to WRC2, and to sell.

    Would be good PR for Toyota. Most fans will see a Toyota anyway, apart from the few petrolheads.

  5. #505
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    1,290
    Like
    28
    Liked 183 Times in 122 Posts
    There is already a Yaris R4 in Poland - Evolve. If the poles have built a few of them, hopefully they leanred from building process rather than have a finnish shop starting from scratch.
    TMR could get the poles to do the chassis work and the finnish workshop would do the fitout and wiring (standard motorsport looms etc) for reliability and the techs can fault find on an event easily.

    http://www.evolve-motorsport.com/yarisr4evolve/

    2019 yaris hatch europe - limited run y20 and gr sport
    https://youtu.be/5EambeTCiSc
    Last edited by Zeakiwi; 7th November 2018 at 02:54.

  6. Likes: Sulland (7th November 2018)
  7. #506
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    J y v ä s k y l ä
    Posts
    3,858
    Like
    18,465
    Liked 2,195 Times in 1,078 Posts
    Remember that Toyota has said: We will make R2 and R5.
    "quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"

  8. #507
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    1,290
    Like
    28
    Liked 183 Times in 122 Posts
    are toyota/ tmr/gr etc waiting for the 2020 yaris chassis before making an R5 due to limitations of the current yaris chassis?

  9. #508
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Posts
    1,561
    Like
    5
    Liked 945 Times in 513 Posts
    Could very well be, but mostly it`s the engine they are waiting. But what scratch? I think they have enough experience and equipment from turning fwd Yaris into a WRC, so an R5 wouldn`t be a problem.
    Last edited by Tarmop; 7th November 2018 at 14:08.

  10. #509
    Senior Member Mirek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Prague / Eastern Bohemia
    Posts
    22,491
    Like
    7,821
    Liked 11,137 Times in 4,419 Posts
    It's not that simple with R5 due to rather complicated rules. It's actually very difficult to develop it. Every team found that, even VW had a lot of issues in R5 development. The main problem is that You have to use a lot of stock parts and You have a given price list not only for the car but also for most of its parts. This is extremely difficult to handle.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

  11. #510
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Posts
    1,561
    Like
    5
    Liked 945 Times in 513 Posts
    Well, but how should it give an advantage to R4 ( basically an Oreca kit mounted to a modified chassis of some make) builders ahead of factory know-how and equipment?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •