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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    Still wont change the fact that it's negative. He always seems to assume that time loss, even a small one is a bad thing. Some drivers might have been happy with their run, given their all on the stage and still the first thing they hear after crossing the finish line is "OOOH You seem to lose a lot of time to driver X here, what happened?" even thought the gap might have been just few seconds.

    And as you mentioned drivers don't even know how they compare to others at that point, still they hear that kind of negativity even they might have only lost a sec or a two.
    Well, only asking "how was the stage" everytime sounds quite boring and you will expect normal answer. He is a journalist and tries to make the driver say something interesting with that. I don't blame him for that behaviour.
    As for Molly and Tanak I agree though, asking "how disappointed are you" in the stage where he lost his championship is not the smartest question possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    Still wont change the fact that it's negative. He always seems to assume that time loss, even a small one is a bad thing.Some drivers might have been happy with their run, given their all on the stage and still the first thing they hear after crossing the finish line is "OOOH You seem to lose a lot of time to driver X here, what happened?" even thought the gap might have been just few seconds.
    Why is negative/bad thing. Every driver responds what has happened in the stage, more or less, how he feels the car, etc, things that might be interesting for the spectators. Even they're happy with their driving, something still might not be quite right with the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    Well, only asking "how was the stage" everytime sounds quite boring and you will expect normal answer. He is a journalist and tries to make the driver say something interesting with that. I don't blame him for that behaviour.
    As for Molly and Tanak I agree though, asking "how disappointed are you" in the stage where he lost his championship is not the smartest question possible.
    It does but there could be some variables with their questions. It's either "WOW AMAZING TIME" or "YOU LOST TIME IS EVERYTHING OKAY?!?" dno if that's really that much more interesting. For me it's annoying.
    I don't know how to do it but those stage end questions could be a big improvement to whole WRC All Live concept.

    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    Why is negative/bad thing. Every driver responds what has happened in the stage, more or less, how he feels the car, etc, things that might be interesting for the spectators. Even they're happy with their driving, something still might be quite right with the car.
    Because how I see it, it's almost always the same thing when Colin is at the stage end. He lives and breaths WRC but making those negative and akward questions which always end up to drivers blunt answer and many times it's for nothing.
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    Had picked up on ( as others have throughout the season) that Tanak is getting moodier in a sarky way. Didn't realise it was just with Molly though, or if that's wide of the mark.

    Maybe just a result of being up at the front regularly and having more at stake, which can = more frustration at times and a lot more tension. Or maybe it is a genuine problem he has with her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge33cymru View Post
    Just watched all of today's coverage, loving All Live, but...

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    All three main categories were separated by under 10 seconds at the end of this rally and they were changing throughout.

    Not to mention, it's hard enough for young drivers to get backing and sponsors these days, at least let them have some screen time. Solans v Franceschi in R2 not mentioned once and hardly any mention today of the other Solans' efforts to topple the Skodas.

    Get these guys some screen time if you want to enhance the value of your championship to them, to the manufacturers involved and to your audience; take a look at how it's done in endurance racing.
    Solans and Franceschi were not registered to WRC3. Who is not registered, doesnt exist for promoter so no sense to any promotion for them (to say the truth, also lot of registered drivers almost doesnt exist for promoter).

    All in all, crews in supporting championships in WRC are "second league" in terms of interest and media coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Who is not registered, doesnt exist for promoter so no sense to any promotion for them (to say the truth, also lot of registered drivers almost doesnt exist for promoter)
    Except for Rovanperä in Monte Carlo and Henning Solberg in Turkey. They made the TV broadcasts, probably for the lack of competitive cars to show and their popularity value.

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    I've listened to Julian Porter for years from the ERC rally radio. But he is getting a bit OTT on All Live trying to call every possible incident. Like a being sure its a puncture just from seeing a bit of understeer. He needs to chill out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    I've listened to Julian Porter for years from the ERC rally radio. But he is getting a bit OTT on All Live trying to call every possible incident. Like a being sure its a puncture just from seeing a bit of understeer. He needs to chill out.
    At Loeb's power stage he totally fucked up lol
    But I must admit that it seemed to me too that he had some kind of puncture or similar.

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    As written here before, one of the biggest issues with WRC+ crew (as with the whole motorsport media industry) is that they are mainly British. In itself it is not bad (uncounting exceptions like Colin Clark being too British), but like WRC+ crew they most of the time give comments either with deliberate or unintentional tone of voice and act the way that hypes and favours Meeke, Evans, Breen, Greensmith, etc and disfavours the non-English drivers. This is very annoying. Since Esperanto was not success, I assume English will dominate media also the next decades before Chinese, but yet Motorsport media should re-teach themselves to behave more objective towards drivers from different nationalities (and also remember that not everyone in the sport is fluent in English). This continuous favouring of English drivers is quite big issue, since effecting strongly to media, results will be seen in all media monitoring e.g. in companies that sponsor drivers and this favours then drivers only from UK, eventually reducing the chances from others and not giving them what they would deserve. The more WRC drivers we would have from multiple countries / continents the better it would be for the future of the WRC.
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    What English drivers?? Meeke is from Ulster, Evans is Welsh, Breen is from Eire......

    Whether you like it or not, English is the universal language; I think people are over reacting to supposed pro-British comments. A lot of motorsport series have UK commentators/ analysts, and I don't think there is much favouritism, in some cases, it's quite the opposite.
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