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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    or they could just stream all different camera's and let the viewer pick which one he wants to see.
    want to see the normal broadcast? watch channel 1. want to see the camera and the interviews at the finish? watch channel 2. want to see the pre recorded interviews? select which one you want to see on channel 3. want to see ogier onboard? watch channel 4. neuville onboard? watch 5. want to see stationary camera's? 6. and so on.

    it costs them nothing more, and it would make the experience hugely better.
    I will stop my subscription at the end of my current month, but if they do the above and if of course the service becomes reliable enough, I will subscribe again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    or they could just stream all different camera's and let the viewer pick which one he wants to see.
    want to see the normal broadcast? watch channel 1. want to see the camera and the interviews at the finish? watch channel 2. want to see the pre recorded interviews? select which one you want to see on channel 3. want to see ogier onboard? watch channel 4. neuville onboard? watch 5. want to see stationary camera's? 6. and so on.

    it costs them nothing more, and it would make the experience hugely better.
    No offense, but your post with the last sentence is one of the most stupid things posted here recently.

    1. One transmission feed
    2. Another transmission feed which would be nearly identical to the first transmission feed. Technically it would be the base feed. That's already two different transmission outputs and you'll need two different mixers for it.
    3. Not a feed, but a video gallery as you proposed.
    4&5. There are three different cameras on board. Unless the feed is only single camera, then it would require one mixer per feed. Also the onboard signal is not constant. Imagine the moaning here.
    6. Yet another mixer.
    ...
    All of it would cost a nice number and increase the logistical head ache significantly.
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    Like it's been explained many times now, it would not possible to chose from onboards because they only have signal over 10km meaning it's probably only two cars within that area.
    It was pretty stable all last year apart from MC, just because they had one hickup with the new software now it's still really good, and we only missed two stages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    You should market to your target audience, not to secondary audience. After all, it's only the fans who tune in to the broadcasts as loyal viewers.
    When this started, casual TV viewers were the the target audience: they took their TV highlights package that went to TV channels, and they put it on a paid website to sell it to some extra people. Plus they added the onboards, and finally the 3 live stages (the only thing that was new for WRC+). So it was mostly "shovelware". They took stuff they had already made for random TV viewers, added a bit for enthusiasts, and tried it out to see whether it sold.

    Now that they have the "all live" version, it's more of an enthusiast product. But they're still producing a lot of it as if it were for mass market TV. They still have John Desborough, for crying out loud.

    Also, filming rally is very expensive. They will pad the actual rallying with anything else they can get away with (interviews, standing starts, commentators jabbering) to keep the cost down by showing as little rally as possible.

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    All Live is effectively an rally enthusiasts service but still being produced by TV people who dont know (or care?) what we really want to see and hear.

    Most of us dont want a 'show', we just want the most relevant raw pictures, pure sound and live split times.

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    6 € / month (thatīs 1,5€ / rally day and if there is 2 rallies in same month itīs 0,75€ / rally day)

    and some of you are still moaning

    LOL

    Iīm happy.
    "quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    6 € / month (thatīs 1,5€ / rally day and if there is 2 rallies in same month itīs 0,75€ / rally day)

    and some of you are still moaning

    LOL



    Iīm happy.
    Me happy to, price is good for what you get. Ok broadcasting troubles should be solved, thats not ok.
    I like the show, also not complaining about comentary.

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    More ways to watch BT Sport:
    http://sport.bt.com/news/watch-bt-sp...11364334308554

    Also says they will be giving viewers more options to personalise their viewing and audio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    No offense, but your post with the last sentence is one of the most stupid things posted here recently.

    1. One transmission feed
    2. Another transmission feed which would be nearly identical to the first transmission feed. Technically it would be the base feed. That's already two different transmission outputs and you'll need two different mixers for it.
    3. Not a feed, but a video gallery as you proposed.
    4&5. There are three different cameras on board. Unless the feed is only single camera, then it would require one mixer per feed. Also the onboard signal is not constant. Imagine the moaning here.
    6. Yet another mixer.
    ...
    All of it would cost a nice number and increase the logistical head ache significantly.
    Are you being payed by alllive to spread that bullshit?
    I could stream 5 different camera angles from my kitchen live with my home pc and less then a thousand euro for christ sake.

    They have all the input feet, all they need to do is send it back out. They don't need anything but a pc and a decent internet connection. There's no need to mix or edit anything, giving viewers the option too choose between different raw feeds is all we want.

    There are thousands of sites that can do it, kanaal+ did it 20 years ago with f1 on regular television.

    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    Like it's been explained many times now, it would not possible to chose from onboards because they only have signal over 10km meaning it's probably only two cars within that area.
    It was pretty stable all last year apart from MC, just because they had one hickup with the new software now it's still really good, and we only missed two stages.
    I could put smartphones in every car and stream every stage live on facebook.

    The technology is there, they just don't want to.

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    Yeah, right. Make an offer for them then.

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