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16th October 2020, 19:35 #31
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CARX restarts current season today with a double event with races saturday and sunday.
CARX cars are the same (Maxi Rally) that are used on Rally Argentino. The news is the Toyota Yaris of Federico Villagra. It looks different than the Yaris of Nadia Cutro that seem to have a more complex aerodynamic work.
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19th October 2020, 20:53 #32
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As Rally Argentino championship is still on a halt because COVID-19, some teams and drivers are moving to Rally Uruguay that restarted a month ago.
Rodrigo Zeballos from Uruguay that usually drives in Rally Argentino with a Peugeot 208 Maxi Rally was the first to sign for the previuos race in september. For the next race at Minas (23-25 october) Nicolas Díaz and Luciano Allende will be part of the race with their Ford Fiesta Maxi Rally.
Nadia Cutro have signed too, and will debut her Toyota Yaris on this race.
Those will be the only three Maxi Rally cars, the rest of the field are N4 and FWD cars.
Rally Uruguay page
https://www.cur.com.uy/
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22nd October 2020, 18:06 #33
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The Proto cars are coming. As it happened with the Maxi Rally cars in the past, it looks like the Protos are the new option to replace old N4 cars.
The Maxi Rally cars improved and they went out of the original idea to save costs, creating a bigger gap to the FWR cars, with mayor costs than the original idea. This is not a problem of the car, it's a problem of the teams that didn't agree to use common parts as dampers and electronics.
There were lot of proposals to create a Maxi Rally "light" category to fill the gap between FWD cars and the Maxi Rally cars. Some of the options were to use a lower turbo pressure on the engine and a simplified H gearbox but it never materialized. Other option was to keep the old atmospheric engines but they need more maintenance than the turbo ones, so none of the options advanced.
Now as a result of many N4 cars stoped because lack of parts (specially the fuel tank), the idea of the Proto cars is growing with up to eight cars under building. Something similar is happening in Paraguay and maybe Uruguay will take the same route.
Here is the first example.
German Schroeder explains (in spanish) the new VW Golf Proto based on EVO IX
https://youtu.be/2UhK3NSRP-A?t=41Last edited by Damian Baldi; 22nd October 2020 at 18:32.
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23rd November 2020, 16:23 #34
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Rally Argentino is back with a double event on the same weekend. With the restrictions because COVID-19 and to make it easy to maintain the roads free of public, the rally will be run in a small space using the same stages three times. Friday and saturday morning will be part of the event #2 of the championship and sunday will be the #3 event.
The event is part of the Federal Rally too, so both series will run together rising the amount of cars up to 125. There will be 30 Maxi Rally turbo cars, and some old Maxi Rally cars with atmospheric engine, plus a single R4. Some teams will be absent becuase some restrictions to move inside the country. Zeballos car is still at Uruguay after he become champions last weekend of the Uruguay championship. Some drivers are making a return after some years of inactivity, as ex soccer player Claudio “Piojo” Lopez and TC driver José Ciantini. Point Cola team won't be present neither with his R5 for Martin Scuncio.
Event details
https://rallyargentino.com/documento...carce_2020.pdf
Rally Federal inscriptions
https://download-files.wix.com/_api/...D0fBtBj3XxFvHg
Rally Argentino inscriptions
https://download-files.wix.com/_api/...F0BM8G9aUSfL40
- Nicolas Diaz will be back to Rally Argentino after the cancellation of his plan to drive at the CODASUR rally, and after taking part and winning at Uruguay's rally of Minas.
short video from Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHdOhhUn..._web_copy_link
- Nadia Cutro will finally drive the new Toyota Yaris
- Alejandro Cancio who have a Skoda R5 in Chile, plans to move to Rally Argentino soon, but didn't make it in time for this race.
- Martin Suriani should debut at the Maxi Rally turbo class after winning the championship last year with an atmospheric MR, but the CGR team will be absent, so Martin seems to be part in the RC5 class.
- At the RC5 class, Juan Gonzalez will debut a Nissan Micra, making the first appeareance of this model on the country.
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26th November 2020, 22:15 #35
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First day of action with the shakedown. Some cars have hit problems, as the Toyota Yaris of Federico Villagra, and some other didn't register a time.
Díaz and Baldoni got the exactly same time for the lead! After some confusion with the inscription list, Martin Scuncio was in with the R5.
Rally Balcarce - Shakedown times
Shakedown Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkEIN6XyEfM
Tomorrow the real competition starts. It's great to have action again.Last edited by Damian Baldi; 27th November 2020 at 20:06.
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27th November 2020, 23:16 #36
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Heartbreaking finish with Martín Scuncio's R5 suffering a puncture on the last SS, loosing more than 40 seconds and loosing the lead in the hands of Nico Díaz with a Ford Fiesta MR.
With more than 120 cars transiting the same two SS three times, the surface becone really difficult with lot of rocks on the road.
- Great work of Javier Castro with the Toyota Etios R4 finishing 5th. Gastón Pasten was a surprise, puting his Polo from the Federal rally on 6th overall position.
- Gerónimo Padilla, who won the stage 2, had a crazy incident when the brake pedal become loose, making his VW Polo go straight into the grasslands.
- Miguel Baldoni, who was battling with Díaz for the RC2 lead, got a broken engine.
- Federico Villagra's new Yaris had a puncture and some other unknown problem that made him lost lot of time on the first stage.
- Nadia Cutro's Yaris had a good debut without any problme, taking firsts SS with care and then going faster, but still a bit far from the leaders.
Nicolas Díaz
Nadia Cutro
Martín Scuncio
Gastón Masten
Federico Villagra
Lucas Machado
Event #2 video resume
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhMZIotWeCo
Saturday and Sunday will be the Sesson #3 of the championship, using two new SS.Last edited by Damian Baldi; 28th November 2020 at 04:02.
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28th November 2020, 17:29 #37
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Today afternoon starts the event #3, a new race on the same weekend, using different SS than yesterday's race.
While the cars are being repair, the drivers writes the routebook. It has been raining a bit, but it seems that the two SS of today will be on dry conditions.
David Nalbandian's car need lot of work after suffer a roll. David admited he was out of practice after several months without driving his car.
Quick repairs done yesterday.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1332338236442685443
Few days ago, Martín Scuncio was testing at Córdoba, latest update parts for his Hyundai. Now the difference between the R5 and the Maxi Rally cars is bigger.
Here is a video of the test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VepTHuHXsQI
Right now, top ten drivers choose their start order.
1º #39 SCUNCIO [Hyundai i20 R5]
2º #18 CASTRO [Toyota Etios R4]
3º #41 MACHADO [Peugeot 208 MR]
4º #1 BALDONI [Chevrolet Agile MR]
5º #2 LIGATO [Chevrolet Agile MR]
6º #5 VILLAGRA [Toyota Yaris MR]
7ª #3 DÍAZ [Ford Fiesta MR]
8º #6 PADILLA [VW Polo MR]
9º #27 CADAMURO [Ford Fiesta MR]
10º #4 D’AGOSTINI [VW Polo MR]Last edited by Damian Baldi; 28th November 2020 at 17:58.
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28th November 2020, 21:56 #38
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End of two SS of the day. These SS are very fast and almost flat roads, instead of the twisted road of yesterday. These conditions makes the difference between the Maxi Rally cars with the R4 with near 60HP less of power. It's the same for the Maxi Rally "light" cars, those that use a 32mm restrictor that race beside the old atmospheric engines in the "Copa PIRELLI RC2".
Scuncio lost some time on the SS2 because he has been opening a road with lot of sand. Baldoni lost a minute on SS1 when the engine went into emergency mode because high temp. On the shorter SS2 he was able to go full throttle but it will be a long minute difficult to recover.
At the front Díaz and Ligato put pressure on Scuncio, followed by other 8 cars in less than 30 seconds.
These fast roads has separated the men from the childs, and those with less experience on these fast cars have lost several seconds.
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29th November 2020, 10:25 #39
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So Maxi Rally in general is faster than R4-kit..??
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29th November 2020, 12:50 #40
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Yes the MR is faster in general. The R4 cars have a better chassis with a better suspension geometry and a transverse engine, but the MR with a more powerful engine makes the difference. In very twisted sectors cars should match.
The key is that the MR cars with the latest ECU settings are getting 310-320 HP, while the R4 have a 265 HP engine. There is a long time discussion about that between the teams.Last edited by Damian Baldi; 29th November 2020 at 13:06.
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