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    Re: Daniel Ricardo disqualified from Australian F1 race

    Surely if it is a matter that is outside of the control of the driver, then penalise the team their constructor points, but leave the driver points out of it. I realise that constructors points are the ones that pay, so surely then that would be more of a penalty if drivers points mean little to the team?

    Still, the whole debacle is being appealed so we shall have to wait.

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    Re: Daniel Ricardo disqualified from Australian F1 race

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
    If they've only got 100kg of fuel what difference does it make how fast they use it? If they use it too fast they'll run out. Surely it should be up to the teams how much fuel they want to use as long as they don't exceed the maximum overall limit.

    It's a shame for Ricciardo as he drove very well all weekend and put his much vaunted teammate in the shade.

    The 100kg/h figure is a maximum delivery figure. On full boost they are allowed this rate so I agree with what you say that they have already imposed a limit but there is a reason they are doing this as well.

    The fact that it is stupid and the cars sound like a long wet fart does not come into it.

    At best this is a 5 spot grid penalty. I am gutted.

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    Re: Daniel Riciardo disqualified from Australian F1 race

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
    If they've only got 100kg of fuel what difference does it make how fast they use it? If they use it too fast they'll run out. Surely it should be up to the teams how much fuel they want to use as long as they don't exceed the maximum overall limit.

    It's a shame for Ricciardo as he drove very well all weekend and put his much vaunted teammate in the shade.
    You are so right on this point. Magnussen was instructed to go into a fuel saving mode around 5 laps from the finish so he would have sufficient fuel to attack in the final two laps. I would suspect that had Magnussen kept going as fast as he could to catch Riciardo, he might have run out of fuel before the end of the race.
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    Re: Daniel Ricardo disqualified from Australian F1 race

    Official sources are now saying it was Vettel who alerted the stewards of the fuel infraction.

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    Re: Daniel Ricardo disqualified from Australian F1 race

    Quote Originally Posted by Warriwa
    Official sources are now saying it was Vettel who alerted the stewards of the fuel infraction.
    Do you have a link?

    I thought the sensor triggers a heads-up alarm for the scrutineers and that is what prompted them to check initially in FP1.

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    Re: Daniel Ricardo disqualified from Australian F1 race

    Quote Originally Posted by Warriwa
    Official sources are now saying it was Vettel who alerted the stewards of the fuel infraction.
    I cannot believe this - please provide a link for this!
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    Re: Daniel Ricardo disqualified from Australian F1 race

    Sorry fellas, I was just taking the piss.

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    Re: Daniel Ricardo disqualified from Australian F1 race

    Quote Originally Posted by Warriwa
    Sorry fellas, I was just taking the piss.
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    Re: Daniel Ricardo disqualified from Australian F1 race

    I thought that was funny
    Tito Vilanova = :champion:

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    Re: Daniel Ricardo disqualified from Australian F1 race

    Quote Originally Posted by anfield5
    My thought is this (please feel free to dusagree (said with Kiwi accent)) there is no need to regulate the fuel flow rate, as there is only 100kg of the stuff allowed, if you use too much you run out, why do things need to be complicated by the rule makers? The fact is Ricciardo got to the end of the race on his allotted fuel (but I digress), the rules are there and that is that, but
    That's the way F1 did it in the past, you go so much fuel and you ran out towards the end if you used too much. But the problem is that it caused the spectacle of drivers running out of fuel while leading the race, and thus losing through no apparent fault of their own (of course it was their fault but the public won't see it that way). So to have limited fuel but to avoid drivers running out on the track, they have given the cars more fuel than they need but limited it's consumption rate, which is sensible.

    As for the part itself, is that manufactured by the teams, or supplied as part of the ECU?
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