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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    Some here have a very distorted view due to western pro electric propaganda, but just looking at what the car manufacturers actually build and especially sell should make it clear that they are not truly interested in electric cars.
    Western progaganda only? https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ch...ion-2019-05-14

    Manufacturers not truly interested in electric cars? https://cleantechnica.com/2019/08/13...electric-cars/

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    Last year 1,4% of global car sales was electric. 1,26 million electric versus 85 millions fossil fuel.
    There are about 1,4 billion cars in the world, about 5 million or 0,35% of those are electric.
    That is the reality. Nobody buys electric cars unless they are forced to or they are heavily subsidized.

    Some here have a very distorted view due to western pro electric propaganda, but just looking at what the car manufacturers actually build and especially sell should make it clear that they are not truly interested in electric cars.
    Currently in most of the world, electric cars do no cost the same as petrol ones. I wrote when they actually do. People buy them, for the stated reasons.

    WRC is basically a Europe-centric series (it even says in the rules that teams have to be based in Europe), the wast majority of cars is not sold in europe. But in countries like India or Indonesia, South America etc and are typically massively tuned down cheap older generation stuff.

    Just looking at what car manufacturers actually invest in and develop right now shows you the majority is electric or hybrid. That being Toyota and VW who are the biggest car companies worldwide. That totally doesn't mean everyone will start driving electric tomorrow, but the trend is there.

    Anyway talking about "propaganda" is the best way to stop any discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    I would like to see a few races in Rallycross before I conclude on electric Motorsport, but it might fit rallycross well come to think of it. Instant torque and huge number of Kw could be cool!

    It is imo entirely possible to make a spectacular electic car (but it would also need some sound yes). Just like it is possible to make totally boring petrol car. (add active suspension, esp and active difs to a rally car and watch the "fun").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    I would like to see a few races in Rallycross before I conclude on electric Motorsport, but it might fit rallycross well come to think of it. Instant torque and huge number of Kw could be cool!
    Electric rallycross car is here. How do you like it?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIeD56BnI-o
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    Electric rallycross car is here. How do you like it?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIeD56BnI-o
    Like vegan cheese. Looks right, but clearly not cheese.
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post

    As soon as the few western governments, and especially the eu stop promoting that bullshit, the electric car is done for.
    Yeah, it's a bit like digital photography. It never took off... the quality was crap and people loved paying for film and processing so much they rejected it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maui J. View Post
    Yeah, it's a bit like digital photography. It never took off... the quality was crap and people loved paying for film and processing so much they rejected it.
    And they had to use artificial shutter sound!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maui J. View Post
    Yeah, it's a bit like digital photography. It never took off... the quality was crap and people loved paying for film and processing so much they rejected it.
    Funnily enough a significant part of the younger generation has a rejuvenated interest in old film, they prefer the tactile feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis44 View Post
    Funnily enough a significant part of the younger generation has a rejuvenated interest in old film, they prefer the tactile feel.
    and vinyl. But these are just retro hobbies, like historic rallying. Most of photos taken and music listened is still digital, actually through smartphones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    and vinyl. But these are just retro hobbies, like historic rallying. Most of photos taken and music listened is still digital, actually through smartphones.
    Yes. Maybe that's why people lost interest in photos and music.
    There are far less viewers of online photo galleries than it used to be 10-15 years ago.
    And there are much less music sold nowadays than in the past.
    Both things have lost their charm.
    I'm not judging if it is good or bad, I don't know that.
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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