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    You mean like this: https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/may-...3--12-12-.html ? And that wasn't even the fuel igniting, just the hot exhaust.

    Due to the instant-pull and low gravity it is entirely possible to make it really fast. Adding some throttle-regulated sound is another possibility, it's not like current (turbo) R2 cars are exactly loud, same for most R5s. Range is the most funny argument of all, already now you have 20-30 km stage and then easily 1 hour of waiting. Stage distances between service are usually on the order of 60 km as well.

    Seriously you people sound like old grannies arguing how this new internet thing is all wrong. Case in point here "proper rallying" for some people is RWD escort on a gravel stage. That might be fun to watch but it does draw manufacturers money, huge crowds or many new young drivers.

    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    How often will they have to replace the batteries too keep the performance at their peak?
    Probably a lot less than you change transmission or engine components. Note that battery degradation affects mostly capacity which does not matter as long as you have enough to finish the stage, while degradation of mechanical parts on normal car directly affects performance.
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    What a bullsheet.....I'm already amazed over the horribly loud noises coming from E-motor....and no info about vehicle dry weight...should be on a pair to Mitsu evo10 gr.N...at least....
    And agree with Mirek-who will prevent the fire when the car will start to burn?? The crews will need special firefighter license...the future looks really interesting & thrilling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    You mean like this: https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/may-...3--12-12-.html ? And that wasn't even the fuel igniting, just the hot exhaust.
    You didn't get the point which is that extinguishing burning batteries is whole different game than extinguishing burning fuel.

    And yes, I am very sure people won't like to spectate this thing. When spectating on stages you can hear a lot of people talking about electric cars and at least here I have never ever heard anything positive regarding them and rallying. Nobody wants that except the politicians who create pressure on the manufacturers who afterward pretend that it's a great thing. It's all one gigantic hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Seriously you people sound like old grannies arguing how this new internet thing is all wrong. Case in point here "proper rallying" for some people is RWD escort on a gravel stage. That might be fun to watch but it does draw manufacturers money, huge crowds or many new young drivers.
    It may sound old granny talk to you, but EVís simply arenít ready for motorsport. If manus, and the always well intentioned public opinion, starts favoring their rally use itís not hard to imagine that sport authorities will be pressured to make radical changes to the events format (already in their PR Opel is admitting that ďorganizers must design their schedule accordinglyĒ to recharching needs). Having even smaller sprint rallys and endless service breaks just to cope with EVís standards wonít certainly make our sport more attractive.
    Rally addict since 1982

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Having even smaller sprint rallys and endless service breaks just to cope with EV’s standards won’t certainly make our sport more attractive.
    I bet if you had told someone during RAC Rally 1985 (with a crazy overnight itinerary) that 30 years later rallies are run during office hours for two and a half days, they would have thought the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    I bet if you had told someone during RAC Rally 1985 (with a crazy overnight itinerary) that 30 years later rallies are run during office hours for two and a half days, they would have thought the same.
    To be fair, they'd have been right! I'm open to electrics, but rallies shouldn't be watered-down any more than they already are...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    You didn't get the point which is that extinguishing burning batteries is whole different game than extinguishing burning fuel.
    Lithium-ion batteries cannot be extinguished with current technology; the only current solution is to throw a burning vehicle into pool of water (google the burning BMW i8 in Netherland, or simillar situation with the E-motobikes on the Moto GP few weeks ago...). I can not imagine a burning E-rally car in the middle of the stage....

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    Quote Originally Posted by the sniper View Post
    To be fair, they'd have been right!
    But we're still here babbling about

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    I bet if you had told someone during RAC Rally 1985 (with a crazy overnight itinerary) that 30 years later rallies are run during office hours for two and a half days, they would have thought the same.
    And they would have been right. Rallying is not more attractive than in 1985. And electric rallying will probably be even less attractive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    And they would have been right. Rallying is not more attractive than in 1985. And electric rallying will probably be even less attractive.
    Had rallying continued like in 1985, it wouldn't exist no more. And same will happen if rallying won't adopt changes.

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