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    Re: Current standard of WRC drivers 2014 season

    Quote Originally Posted by A.F.F.
    Who is that Grönholm and what do he know about WRC anyway?
    I've heard he has won Rally Sweden 5 times
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    Re: Current standard of WRC drivers 2014 season

    many drivers in the past made wrong assumptions...

    lets not forget the late penti who claimed that Rautenbach was far more talented than Latvala...

    Kubica is a nice addition but he has no serious future in the sport...

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    Re: Current standard of WRC drivers 2014 season

    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T
    many drivers in the past made wrong assumptions...

    lets not forget the late penti who claimed that Rautenbach was far more talented than Latvala...

    Kubica is a nice addition but he has no serious future in the sport...
    Pentti. And let's never forget him.
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    Re: Current standard of WRC drivers 2014 season

    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T
    Kubica is a nice addition but he has no serious future in the sport...
    Care to explain?

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    Re: Current standard of WRC drivers 2014 season

    his disability will always be a huge disadvantage to be a challenger for wins, if some of the top 3-4 retire then yes maybe. plus he seems to be all over the place at the moment. He is fast and nice to watch though and he truly loves the sport so it is nice to have him.

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    Re: Current standard of WRC drivers 2014 season

    I don't think his disability is much disadvantage, if it would be then he surely wouldn't win stages already in Monte. Certainly it doesn't look like it's slowing him down and he also doesn't complain about it, so I think you're putting too much attention to it.
    As for the "all over the place" I'm pretty sure that most drivers were/are like that at the beginning (and some were like that almost through the whole career and became legends).
    Time will tell, I think his attitude (commitment, work ethics) will help him.

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    Re: Current standard of WRC drivers 2014 season

    Here´s my list of current standards:
    Ogier: fast but make mistakes. No PS points rubbed his confidence a bit. This time he drove like a virgin on snow.
    JML: Can if he stands his mind. This time it worked. Hope it lasts.
    Andreas M: He has started proving his skills. Let´s see if he´s consistent.
    Mikko: We´d hoped for even better. This result would be a minor though a boost for him.
    Tanak: We knew he was fast.
    Solberg2: Sweden is his favourite rally. But don´t underestimate him. As well as his brother.
    Meeke: Good speed, but still a virgin.
    Evans: Learning year. Should do WRC2 in 2014 instead, like Pontus will do.
    Kubica: Virgin. And slowed down more and more during the rally. Will be good on tarmac. On gravel - we´ll see.
    Breen: Well, another virgin on snow. Hopefully learned something.
    Mads: Did what he should. If if wasn´t there he´d been 2nd. Approved.

    Did I forget any of the top drivers?

    Yes, Tidemand: Better performance in speed last year. But did what he should do this year. No faults except from deciding wrong setup from the beginning.
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    Re: Current standard of WRC drivers 2014 season

    Quote Originally Posted by A.F.F.
    Who is that Grönholm and what do he know about WRC anyway?
    apparently nothing about driving talent... maybe Loeb beat his ability to judge out of him apart from his spirit...

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    Re: Current standard of WRC drivers 2014 season

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    Quote Originally Posted by "A.F.F.":207vtrh4
    Who is that Grönholm and what do he know about WRC anyway?
    apparently nothing about driving talent... maybe Loeb beat his ability to judge out of him apart from his spirit...[/quote:207vtrh4]

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    Re: Current standard of WRC drivers 2014 season

    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper
    Here´s my list of current standards:
    Ogier: fast but make mistakes. No PS points rubbed his confidence a bit. This time he drove like a virgin on snow.
    JML: Can if he stands his mind. This time it worked. Hope it lasts.
    Andreas M: He has started proving his skills. Let´s see if he´s consistent.
    Mikko: We´d hoped for even better. This result would be a minor though a boost for him.
    Tanak: We knew he was fast.
    Solberg2: Sweden is his favourite rally. But don´t underestimate him. As well as his brother.
    Meeke: Good speed, but still a virgin.
    Evans: Learning year. Should do WRC2 in 2014 instead, like Pontus will do.
    Kubica: Virgin. And slowed down more and more during the rally. Will be good on tarmac. On gravel - we´ll see.
    Breen: Well, another virgin on snow. Hopefully learned something.
    Mads: Did what he should. If if wasn´t there he´d been 2nd. Approved.

    Did I forget any of the top drivers?

    Yes, Tidemand: Better performance in speed last year. But did what he should do this year. No faults except from deciding wrong setup from the beginning.
    Hehe, I forgot two

    Neuville: Bad luck with stones hidden in snowbanks. Showed good pace and learned a lot.
    Juho H: Also good pace and a 6 th maybe if wasn´t so unlucky with that hidden stone. Or maybe the car let him down. Hyundai comes out stronger after this event. I´m sure of that.
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