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Thread: 2013 Lessons identified
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11th October 2013, 15:49 #21
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by miniwintz
Less emissions - if You remove anti-lag You lower the consumption and emissions by half but You remove a big part of spectacle, anyway something in that direction was done with R5 cars which have different (weaker) anti-lag.
Less noise - noise is part of safety in rallying and its maximum values are actually already regulated. Remember that in rallying people can get on the stage. Noise is an important warning for them that the car is coming. Remember what it's like when you are spectating a rally in a strong wind and a diesel car is coming?
This summer I have been spectating a race of electric formula cars. Believe me that it was boring as hell no matter how fast the cars go. Rallying as a sport is hard to understand for many people and large part of it's audience go to watch rallies because those are spectacular and somewhat crazy. Would You go to spectate a distant (or even a close rally) to watch cars with no sound and going like on rails? I wouldn't, definitely and I wouldn't even watch it on TV.Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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11th October 2013, 15:55 #22
Re: 2013 Lessons identified
I'm 100% with you, and I'd be surprised to see a fan who isn't. I'm just pointing out what "could" eventually be done to reconciliate mass media with rallying.
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11th October 2013, 16:19 #23
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by shaperzrallyhttp://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!
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11th October 2013, 16:28 #24
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by Mirek
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11th October 2013, 17:55 #25
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by RS
Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???
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11th October 2013, 21:15 #26
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by Mirek
But if anyone are able to put aprox figures to a 10 round series in National series, ERC and WRC in a R5. Just the running costs, not buying the car, what will those figures be like?
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16th October 2013, 19:43 #27
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by miniwintz
How the news media operates is very simple. They ask themselves: 1. is one of our own winning? 2. if we don't broadcast this, would our viewers know it even happened?
The thing with the Tour de France and other cycling races is that they compete over 200 kilometres per day with no laps and no repeat stages. Enormous areas of the country get covered. That in itself makes it newsworthy. Since rallies have adopted the cloverleaf format they are tucked away in some corner of the country. For dumb media reporters it looks like the event is just local. And they don't cover local events because those are not important for their nationwide viewers.
If the Tour de France set up HQ in Paris or some other town and did the same 3 stages for 3 weeks, the race would be dead within two years. Yet in Rally this is somehow acceptable...
And if the rally is suddenly silent and 100% emission free the media still won't report on this. Because they don't think their viewers want to know about rally...
The media needs to understand the storyline of the rally. If they don't understand this they either won't report on it, or they will go by standard formats, like crashes or green psychos.
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by Lousada
1. He had no idea why IRC even existed. He said that we have WRC for the best drivers in the world and ERC for the best drivers in Europe. So for whom is the IRC?
2. He could not understand why there are certain cars that cannot score points in IRC. If you had FIAT or Peugeot than you could score points. But when you were driving Subaru or Suzuki, then they wouldn't even show you in the TV report. I took me much time to explain him that manufacturers were obliged to pay the organizers in order to be present in the TV show.
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4. Then he could not understand how it is possible that a Subaru driver wins Safari Rally, but on TV and in the standings they show someone else as a winner.
5. Then he could not understand why there were rallies that didn"t count for the championship (the 8 best results out of 10). Why organize 10 events when only 8 count?
There were also many other questions and all of them were reasonable. After this phone call I realized how many idiotic rules there are in the rally world. What do you think he will publish in his magazine next time? Another report, from a sport that nobody understands or a report from Tour de France?http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
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17th October 2013, 13:02 #30
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Since ERC joined with IRC it's not only about Eurosport but also about the whole political machinery in FIA which makes the things even more unpredictable.
Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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