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7th October 2013, 09:25 #21
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Re: Lewis Hamilton says Red Bull car -- not Sebastian Vettel
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Back to your point though about him looking silly, we all have our point of view, and I really do feel Hamilton's is valid. In RBR you have one guy on the way to retirement and the other is a youngster at the top of his game - it's hardly a benchmark for Seb.
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
The truth is, we can make arguments back and forth about Vettel but as of right now your POV and mine both have merit. Nobody is doubting Vettel is a top driver, I just very much doubt that he's the actual best driver on the grid.
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7th October 2013, 10:15 #22
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Re: Lewis Hamilton says Red Bull car -- not Sebastian Vettel
Originally Posted by The Black Knightкак могу я знать что я думаю, пока не слушал что я говорю
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7th October 2013, 10:35 #23
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Re: Lewis Hamilton says Red Bull car -- not Sebastian Vettel
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Originally Posted by "The Black Knight":265aiwk6
Sour grapes is your interpretation of those events. I see it differently. The wing made a one tenth of a second difference at Silverstone. And remember it was Helmut Marko that said Mark didn't notice the difference. I've never heard this from Mark himself, so the accuracy of your Silverstone portrayal is very much a doubt. As for the rest of your post, there is some in it I agree with, other things in it I don't but this thread is what Hamilton says about Vettel, not Mark
I really don't see how what Lewis said can be seen as sour grapes. The simple fact is that everyone is beatable. Webber has beaten Seb on more than a few occasions. So yeah, everyone is beatable and that applies for every one of the great because ultimately we're all human. No matter how good a job you do, it's always possible that someone else can do better
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7th October 2013, 10:56 #24
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Re: Lewis Hamilton says Red Bull car -- not Sebastian Vettel
Originally Posted by The Black Knightкак могу я знать что я думаю, пока не слушал что я говорю
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7th October 2013, 13:23 #25
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Re: Lewis Hamilton says Red Bull car -- not Sebastian Vettel
I'm pretty certain any of the top drivers would have won a few titles, if not all 4 if they were in Seb's car. So Lewis has a point.
Sour grapes? Why would he have sour grapes now compared to the last 4 years?
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7th October 2013, 15:45 #26
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Re: Lewis Hamilton says Red Bull car -- not Sebastian Vettel
Great dice by Fred, Hulk, and the Boss, even if it was for fourth. All three of those freakin' guys deserve better cars.
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Originally Posted by Zo
Nice thread BTW I started it as a jokeMay the forza be with you
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7th October 2013, 15:53 #27
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Re: Lewis Hamilton says Red Bull car -- not Sebastian Vettel
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Originally Posted by "The Black Knight":gpktdtjr
Myself and Black Knight have not tried to discredit Vettel in our analysis yet you've still felt the need to make a few below the belt remarks about Hamilton in response. I'm not sure it achieves what you intended. I fear you're leading us down the 'my driver is better than your driver avenue' and I can't see the point in that over a pretty valid statement by Hamilton..
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7th October 2013, 16:30 #28
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Re: Lewis Hamilton says Red Bull car -- not Sebastian Vettel
Originally Posted by henners88
In Lewis' defense though; he's merely repeating the lines he's been fed by the English press since the summer break. Maybe he and Vettel would be better off getting a press person, like Schumacher had with S. Kehm. Both have put their foot firmly in their mouth lately with statements that weren't really thought through, giving their detractors the chance to have a field day with it.как могу я знать что я думаю, пока не слушал что я говорю
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7th October 2013, 17:01 #29
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Re: Lewis Hamilton says Red Bull car -- not Sebastian Vettel
These day, it is all PR, IMO. Lewis is protecting his brand and although I think that Seb is a special driver in a special car, I can understand why Lewis is trying to downplay his superiority.
But I think that it is a little bit bad for the sport if a true great is not recognized.Formula 1
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7th October 2013, 19:47 #30
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Re: Lewis Hamilton says Red Bull car -- not Sebastian Vettel
Maybe the moral of this topic is that we can hardly criticize any drivers for being arrogant. It looks like they can all make arrogant comments depending on context, if we can actually trust the media, that is. Often we can't though.
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