Lewis Hamilton says Red Bull car -- not Sebastian Vettel --

[anfield5]

You are quite right. It was the same with Schumacher at Ferrari. He was the driver who was going to win the majority of the teams races and titles, so the car was tailored to him. Red Bull have done a very smart thing with their design, they have optimised it to suit their best chance for success, and that is Vettel.

[henners88]

You are quite right. It was the same with Schumacher at Ferrari. He was the driver who was going to win the majority of the teams races and titles, so the car was tailored to him. Red Bull have done a very smart thing with their design, they have optimised it to suit their best chance for success, and that is Vettel.

Exactly. We can't really blame Vettel for putting himself in that position and as I said, the likes of Schumacher did it previously. You can see why Mark would have got frustrated early on, however age is not on his side and Vettel has been outperforming him for years now. Teams will always back the driver they feel will bring the most success even if from a PR point of view it is not admitted.

[Parabolica]

You are quite right. It was the same with Schumacher at Ferrari. He was the driver who was going to win the majority of the teams races and titles, so the car was tailored to him. Red Bull have done a very smart thing with their design, they have optimised it to suit their best chance for success, and that is Vettel.

The notion that Vettel has to go somewhere else, or have an equal team-mate to challenge him is just an envy-fuelled dreamers notion.

He has already secured himself as the Emperor, so he should do everything he can to keep that position. He has nothing to prove, it is titles they are competing for, not some ideal utopian Corinthian respect.

Again, at the moment, Vettel has not lost his position of power. It can be claimed that Fernando has, twice, first at mclaren and possibly now at Ferrari (time will tell, it could be that by defeating Kimi he reinforces his position), while Hamilton couldn't make his 08 and 09 team domination into a long term position (his personality, like Alonso perhaps, and Liegate were arguably his undoing at McLaren).

That, and the small matter of 4 successive titles, means that, to use Compton Street-Slang (so Lewis digs it), Vettel - He Da Man.
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[anfield5]

You are quite right. It was the same with Schumacher at Ferrari. He was the driver who was going to win the majority of the teams races and titles, so the car was tailored to him. Red Bull have done a very smart thing with their design, they have optimised it to suit their best chance for success, and that is Vettel.

The notion that Vettel has to go somewhere else, or have an equal team-mate to challenge him is just an envy-fuelled dreamers notion.

He has already secured himself as the Emperor, so he should do everything he can to keep that position. He has nothing to prove, it is titles they are competing for, not some ideal utopian Corinthian respect.

Again, at the moment, Vettel has not lost his position of power. It can be claimed that Fernando has, twice, first at mclaren and possibly now at Ferrari (time will tell, it could be that by defeating Kimi he reinforces his position), while Hamilton couldn't make his 08 and 09 team domination into a long term position (his personality, like Alonso perhaps, and Liegate were arguably his undoing at McLaren).

That, and the small matter of 4 successive titles, means that, to use Compton Street-Slang (so Lewis digs it), Vettel - He Da Man.
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The problem for Fred is simple, Ferrari have continually given him a pile of crap to drive, the team don't want to own up to it being their fault, so the finger gets pointed at the driver (even though without him they would have won nothing at all for the past 4 years), and when he becomes that frustrated with life he makes a comment about it, and tells the world what he wants for his birthday is someone else's car, Ferrari further blame him. If Fred was winning, as Vettel is, Ferrari would be happy, Fred would be happy and he would be 'King of the World".

[555-04Q2]

You are quite right. It was the same with Schumacher at Ferrari. He was the driver who was going to win the majority of the teams races and titles, so the car was tailored to him. Red Bull have done a very smart thing with their design, they have optimised it to suit their best chance for success, and that is Vettel.

The notion that Vettel has to go somewhere else, or have an equal team-mate to challenge him is just an envy-fuelled dreamers notion.

He has already secured himself as the Emperor, so he should do everything he can to keep that position. He has nothing to prove, it is titles they are competing for, not some ideal utopian Corinthian respect.

Again, at the moment, Vettel has not lost his position of power. It can be claimed that Fernando has, twice, first at mclaren and possibly now at Ferrari (time will tell, it could be that by defeating Kimi he reinforces his position), while Hamilton couldn't make his 08 and 09 team domination into a long term position (his personality, like Alonso perhaps, and Liegate were arguably his undoing at McLaren).

That, and the small matter of 4 successive titles, means that, to use Compton Street-Slang (so Lewis digs it), Vettel - He Da Man.
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The problem for Fred is simple, Ferrari have continually given him a pile of crap to drive, the team don't want to own up to it being their fault, so the finger gets pointed at the driver (even though without him they would have won nothing at all for the past 4 years), and when he becomes that frustrated with life he makes a comment about it, and tells the world what he wants for his birthday is someone else's car, Ferrari further blame him. If Fred was winning, as Vettel is, Ferrari would be happy, Fred would be happy and he would be 'King of the World".

Exactly! Ferrari are a great team, BUT, they are Italian and if there is one thing I have learnt over the years from dealing with my Italian suppliers, they are never wrong it is always someone else's fault! Maybe pino can shed some light on this

But seriously, Ferrari thought they would be challenging for championships and besides one year, they haven't really have they? Alonso just stated what he feels and because it is true, I think it hit management hard and they were overreacting, as usual!