Homophobia

[steveaki13]

This may not be true but I would think on the whole its only men who except Lesbians more than Gay men. We all know why that is with the modern computer culture.

I am not sue women would be that fussed.

Difficult to phrase without sounding weird, but bascially men as a whole probably fantasise more about Lesbians than men or women do about gay men.

Just a consideration. I may be wrong just an idea

[tfp]

Well from a female perspective, female gayness is not a threat to most males, therefore to them it is nothing to fear. If they meet a lesbian woman she is just 'off the list' like one of their male mates.

Gay men though present the apparent threat to other 'straight' males. Sadly the gender divide is due to the males who have fear of gayness. Women generally are not threatened by gay men or women. Not to say you do not get women who are actively homophobic I have met a few. But in general, we are more accepting of sexuality.

I think the being openly gay in school for males is beginning to be trendy. It doesn't seem too big a deal now in some areas of the UK at least. Bullying is now moving more towards other more subtle differences than sexuality, sad but true.

I think it comes from the male perspective on life, most 'straight' men seem to weigh up the sexual value of woman they meet. I guess the concept to a straight man that another man might be doing that to them, might just be something to do with it? On the other hand women are use to this, so it doesn't set off alarm bells when a man or perhaps occasionally another woman does it?

This is IMO exactly why gays are less tolerated in society than lesbians. The fact that us men "know what we are like" when we see women, especially good looking ones! And the fact that other men could possibly be doing that to us is a bit strange....

My mates brother is gay, although I swear he is lying just so he gets all the girls

[tfp]

Ps I know that last post may have been a bit controversial, but this is just my opinion of course

[Sprocket]

Ps I know that last post may have been a bit controversial, but this is just my opinion of course

I think you have it, perhaps not the bit about your mates brother I've known some quite 'aggressive' lesbians in my life, I use to work in a field where for some reason there was a very high proportion of lesbians. Some were very 'blokey' in their attitude to other women they fancied. So in a way straight men just related to them as being the same as them so accepted it. The same guys though see the gay guy as very much, not the same as them. As a women I'm already use to blokes being blokes, so when a woman is a bit or a lot like that, it's no big deal. It's like a total reversal of perspective between the genders.

[Anubis]

Homosexuality is not the same difference as fans of different football clubs or political sights. It is antinatural sickness, degeneracy. No different than pedofilia, necrofilia, family-filia etc.

May I ask if you do any of the following?

a) wear clothing
b) drink cow's milk
c) have ever flown in an aeroplane

How about a thought experiment. I'm not for a moment wishing it upon you, but let's say you are stricken down with an illness that will prove terminal unless treated. Do you accept or refuse treatment? Are you willing to stand fully behind your anti-natural viewpoint in every aspect of day to day life, or does it just serve as a useful flag to justify things you dislike anyway?

[Anubis]

Difficult to phrase without sounding weird, but bascially men as a whole probably fantasise more about Lesbians than men or women do about gay men.

I think you're spot on with that. You can guarantee a lot of the men who are very anti-gay will have hard drives full of lesbian pornography at home. I think a lot of men feel threatened by the thought of the homosexual act itself not for any physical reason (you can bet they'd partake if their wife/girlfriend requested it...), more by the fact to be on the receiving side of the equation is a submissive gesture, which doesn't play well with a lot of the macho male image society has drummed into us over generations.

[Knock-on]

I don't mind Slowsons opinion at all. It's refreshing to have someone that is honest in their views even though they fly in the face of what is considered acceptable. We complain when the forum is too sanitised yet some want to silence contrary opinions

So no, I won't condemn his post but would rather understand it better.

Also, I perfectly understand Zico. I have 2 boys and a daughter. I would prefer they grow up heterosexual as that's what I am. I would also prefer they support England Rugby, McLaren and Spurs but if they don't, then I won't love them any less. I suppose we all cast a shadow and hope our offspring share the same values.

Just human nature I suppose?

[Dave B]

Homosexuality is not the same difference as fans of different football clubs or political sights. It is antinatural sickness, degeneracy. No different than pedofilia, necrofilia, family-filia etc.

Words fail me. That is all.

[ioan]

I've been thinking a lot, over the past few minutes, about homosexuality and all that it entails and provokes.

The most interesting aspect of it all seems to be homophobia. What provokes it? Is it at all rational or only emotional?

This is what I would like to discuss with you, dear fellow forumer, because I'm bored and have nothing better to do.

What's your attitude to gays, and homosexuality in general? More interestingly, why do you think you have this attitude?

People with certain intellectual level have always been afraid of everything which is different from what they think is normal.
You can add religious indoctrination to the list as well.

[ioan]

Words fail me. That is all.

You're not the only one.