Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

[Sal yet again]

I was guilty in the early days of being a bit cynical and perhaps jealous in hindsight of Ken's involvement in rallying however I like many I suspect would be foolish to deny his influence on the sport and car culture in general. His sheer enthusiasm and love for rallying always came across and was last witness to it in the Tuthill Classic Safari film which appeared on Youtube over the break.

To his family and many friends and fans my condolences.

[NOT]

Most motorsport guys die from stupid accidents because driving fast is something really hard and they feel they can do almost everything at that level which results in hilarious deaths.. helicopters, climbing ladders to pick fruit, snomobiles, skiing ects....

Oh well rallying did not lose much with block and it also helped to bring the wrong people into the sport... But a loss is a loss and is always a pity when people die below the age of 82.

[WRCStan]

Isn´t it they are also dare devils outside their sport, when they instead could ease down a bit? Schumacher, McRae and now Block...

Not easily, it's just part of who they are that brought them into the sport and got them noticed in the first place.

Ken without doubt enjoyed what he did - rallying more than some works drivers. For example doing more donuts than necessary in Barcelona was just to spread the enjoyment he got instead of comparing times. A true petrolhead too, responsible for some great builds. Who else was going to be building and rallying an Escort Cosworth!?

Very sad news.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I've heard of many fatal accidents with forms of off-roading sport like quad bikes, mountain bikes, scramblers and skidoo's.

Rallying deaths are relatively rare but bring much negative pressto the sport whereas other sports get away with it...

[AnttiL]

I've heard of many fatal accidents with forms of off-roading sport like quad bikes, mountain bikes, scramblers and skidoo's.

Rallying deaths are relatively rare but bring much negative pressto the sport whereas other sports get away with it...

I don't mean to comment on Block's incident, but it's good to distinguish accidents in official sports and just hobby riding.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I hope Oliver Solberg is careful on his snowmobile...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cm69N...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[AnttiL]

Any Swedish guys have old Rally Sweden maps / spectator guides or know someone who could have them?

I made this based on a video but it's not 100% right, would like to get some details. The whole area is likely changed a bit since...

https://www.rally-maps.com/Internati...993/Kalvholmen

https://youtu.be/twjqwXUmNZg?t=575

Also some years of Rally Sweden are missing altogether from rally-maps so overall maps from those years would be appreciated as well. Namely 2002, 2001, 1999, 1996, 1995, 1992, 1991 and 1988. And also the itinerary of 1987 is missing.

[Rallyper]

Any Swedish guys have old Rally Sweden maps / spectator guides or know someone who could have them?

I made this based on a video but it's not 100% right, would like to get some details. The whole area is likely changed a bit since...

https://www.rally-maps.com/Internati...993/Kalvholmen

https://youtu.be/twjqwXUmNZg?t=575

Also some years of Rally Sweden are missing altogether from rally-maps so overall maps from those years would be appreciated as well. Namely 2002, 2001, 1999, 1996, 1995, 1992, 1991 and 1988. And also the itinerary of 1987 is missing.

I will take a look in my archive...

[Steve Boyd]

I will take a look in my archive...

One of the things I like about this place.
People (geeks?) like me with personal archives of rally history that are happy to share with anyone putting together collections of information that the world can see.

[AnttiL]

One of the things I like about this place.
People (geeks?) like me with personal archives of rally history that are happy to share with anyone putting together collections of information that the world can see.

Indeed! And not just this place but the rallying community in general. Although there's also some examples of people who have a big collection of paper maps unwilling to share anything to the digital world, but luckily it's a small minority.