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    A l-o-n-g time ago with just a Logitech G27 Force Feedback Wheel and Pedal Set

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    The long-term future of motor sport is not so bad (even if, in the short-term, Mercedes F1 Team needs to upgrade their data-acquisition system...lol)
    here; https://www.star.kiwi/2018/03/co-dri...-rally-winner/
    and here;
    https://www.foxsports.com.au/motorsp...43d9b35ad2824d
    "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." Steve McQueen

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    Barman - Hi co-driver what would you like
    Co-driver - Anything just make it strong and make it a double
    Barman - What's wrong ? You really don't seem very happy
    Co-driver - I've been calling notes for years and what have I achieved ? What chance do I have now ?
    Barman - I don't understand, what's happened
    Co-driver - Here read this https://www.star.kiwi/2018/03/co-dri...-rally-winner/

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan View Post
    Barman - Hi co-driver what would you like
    Co-driver - Anything just make it strong and make it a double
    Barman - What's wrong ? You really don't seem very happy
    Co-driver - I've been calling notes for years and what have I achieved ? What chance do I have now ?
    Barman - I don't understand, what's happened
    Co-driver - Here read this https://www.star.kiwi/2018/03/co-dri...-rally-winner/
    First of all congratulations to both Matt & Jared!
    I was about to write a longer story about this but decided otherwise since it would have most likely been taken the wrong way to most of you since i'm bad at expressing myself in English.
    Jared and his parents are great example of giving their kids a change to pursuit motorsport in a different way than driving.
    Co-drivers should deserve the same level of attention as drivers do, they have atleast as important job as drivers do but normally they don't get as much of recognition as they deserve.
    Hopefully Jared keeps doing what he does and learns to rally with notes aswell. We have a lot of young drivers but new and young co-drivers are always needed to keep the sport alive!
    Last edited by Essaj; 23rd March 2018 at 23:32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    Co-drivers should deserve the same level of attention as drivers do, they have atleast as important job as drivers do but normally they don't get as much of recognition as they deserve.
    Hopefully Jared keeps doing what he does and learns to rally with notes aswell. We have a lot of young drivers but new and young co-drivers are always needed to keep the sport alive!
    the thing is, if you put ogier next to some other codriver, he will probably still win. if you put ingrassia next to some other driver, they will most likely not win anymore.

    no matter how important codrivers are, they will never be as important and thus get the same attention as drivers. but on the other hand, they also don't get the same shit when things go bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    the thing is, if you put ogier next to some other codriver, he will probably still win. if you put ingrassia next to some other driver, they will most likely not win anymore.

    no matter how important codrivers are, they will never be as important and thus get the same attention as drivers. but on the other hand, they also don't get the same shit when things go bad.
    That's also true but Usually when driver wins it's always just "ogier" winning but when crash happens it's always "Ogier and Ingrassia" who made the mistake.
    It would be great if co-drivers would get more appreciation for what they do so maybe young kids would be more interested in that field aswell.
    Okay I totally agree that it shouldn't be 50-50 as drivers are and will always be the bigger and visual part in the car but co-drivers totally deserve more.
    like we saw in last years FIA price givings when Ogier received a big trophy while Ingrassia only got a small one.
    Rally has and always will be co-op championship. Drivers will be the big stars but we also need star co-drivers to fill the roles of retiring co-drivers.

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    Red or Blue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan View Post
    Barman - Hi co-driver what would you like
    Co-driver - Anything just make it strong and make it a double
    Barman - What's wrong ? You really don't seem very happy
    Co-driver - I've been calling notes for years and what have I achieved ? What chance do I have now ?
    Barman - I don't understand, what's happened
    Co-driver - Here read this https://www.star.kiwi/2018/03/co-dri...-rally-winner/
    I hear he isn't actually the youngest rally winner in NZ, apparently Hayden Graves won Catlins rally (or was it Dusky? One of the ESCC club rallies anyway) co-driving for his dad (Andrew Graves, who also co-drives as well as driving) at the age of 12.

    Great stuff all the same!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    Co-drivers should deserve the same level of attention as drivers do, they have atleast as important job as drivers do ...
    There's a fairly obvious flaw in your argument. I wonder if you can spot it.
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