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    Something I've found rather depressing is that rallying would actually work in a documentary kind of format, like the F1 Netflix show, where the story of a rally could be properly told. The rally films of the 70s and 80s are what made rallying. Rather than the formulaic world feed style, soulless, cut and paste 25m highlights package that defined the ISC/North One era, something far more original could be created given more time. Taking the UK for example, if the general public has no idea when a WRC round actually was, would it matter if a 'film' telling the story of the rally was shown the following week on a late Saturday afternoon on BBC2 (terrestrial channel)? Anyone drawn into the sport by those could then go on to follow the rallies live on premium sports channels/WRC+ All Live. You can narrate a film in different languages.

    Obviously, turning around a film/documentary in a week would be a challenge and compromises would have to be made, but can we honestly say the 'as live' highlights are the best expression of this sport? I appreciate the Red Bull highlights with Mike Chen were better than the standard format ones though, but how many people watch Red Bull TV?
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    Coincidentally, Save Lancia put this old film on their fb page this week:

    https://www.facebook.com/savelancia/...80092713685626

    Remember watching this 30 years ago.

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    lets sing with the Hyundai guys cause weekend is head https://www.instagram.com/p/CMT7YM4n8L3/
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    Quote Originally Posted by lmmjvss View Post
    I work at a bar and everyday someone talks about racing and I say that "im a racing fan"... Then these young people say "Oh, Im a F1 fan". But when we chat, I always realize that they only watch F1's netflix show, the "funny radio" highlights and those "WTF1" youtubers talking about the race (but actually they focus on the gossip. Like "oh Max was so angry at Lewis" or whatever).
    Basically the current F1 fan DONT WATCH the race, only these Gossip Focused things. So then theres the question: Why are F1 teams wasting half billion bucks in their programs if fans only watch the gossip and the highlights?
    To me it seems F1 has always had more friction between the drivers. Rally drivers have always been friends with each other outside the stages, having dinners together, practicing together (when practice was more free to arrange) outside team borders. I think it has to do with them not having to race against each other directly, with overtakings and possible collisions (remember the things Senna and Prost were involved in). In a way, the friction also creates drama, which is probably only beneficial for F1.

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    Rally drivers spend a lot more time together. In f1 they are with their own team all day, and only meet at the track or during driver meetings.

    In rally drivers spend a lot of their day together. Waiting to start a stage, waiting in regroup, waiting for service.
    Especially the wrc drivers, who are always starting close to each other.

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    https://itgetsfasternow.com/2021/03/...iii-1979-1986/

    The third part of my WRC Calendar History focuses on the early years of drivers championship and the Group B era. When did WRC Rally New Zealand take place on the South island? When did Swedish Rally start from Stockholm? When did Argentina have snow on the route? Find out here.

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    https://itgetsfasternow.com/2021/03/...-iv-1987-1988/

    In 1987 rallies were made shorter and slower, with more breaks. In 1988 all rallies had to arrange a super special. Even Monte, Corsica and Safari.

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    if you miss rally at the moment and want to see something, 24h of clips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxnPezvf6UE
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    A lot of RWD Volvos on swedish clips. Just search for swedish rallying...
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

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    Why is Subaru America so successful? Lesbians and Rally fans... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89rGdJVDiOM

    If nothing else, this video highlights how highly the American division values rallying. This in a country where rallying is a very niche sport. It's almost incomprehensible that by comparison, almost everywhere else in the world where rallying is more popular, Subaru acts like it is ashamed of its rallying past. Funny enough, Subaru of America is the part of the business keeping the entire company afloat...

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