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    Goodwood SpeedWeek is go! The GR Yaris caused a stir on the rally stage last night with @ElfynEvans and @JariMattiWRC driving. Stay tuned for more #GWSpeedWeek action over the weekend.



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    I did see 5 different Yaris GR4 during Rally Sweden, over half year ago...

    Are those 1st ones in GB ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    I did see 5 different Yaris GR4 during Rally Sweden, over half year ago...

    Are those 1st ones in GB ?
    Possibly... maybe that's why they have Meeke, Latvala and Evans promoting them.

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    What a BIG frontscoop!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    Are those 1st ones in GB ?
    There's been one left had drive one touring Toyota showrooms across GB since July, IIRC.

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    What was the true golden era of rallying?

    How many teams participated full-time or part-time?

    Before 1995 I've counted a team having done a full season when they have started in 7-8 rallies (depending on how many rallies you could count to your score that year).



    Competitiveness can be measured by looking at how many of the teams managed to win a rally, finish on the podium or neither?



    I have counted only one team per brand so the likes of Stobart do not count.

    Also, I only counted the top class entries so for example Volkswagen in 1986-1987 doesn't count in.

    Some one-offs were also left off but for example in 1985 it was difficult to leave out Renault who won their only start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    What was the true golden era of rallying? How many teams participated full-time or part-time?

    Before 1995 I've counted a team having done a full season when they have started in 7-8 rallies (depending on how many rallies you could count to your score that year).

    Also, I only counted the top class entries so for example Volkswagen in 1986-1987 doesn't count in.

    Some one-offs were also left off but for example in 1985 it was difficult to leave out Renault who won their only start.
    Nice work AntilL

    Ideally you would add a 3rd bucket about works teams competing in the second tier category (Rallye2, Super2000, F2, Gp.A when Gp.B was the top class, etc ...). Although they do not provide competition for wins, not oinly do they bring the unsual podium (or win) but also some works seats fro drivers. I am so depressed to day that the last step is near impossible for a young gun (if not backed from youth "a la RedBull"or with deep pockets (buying a seat)

    Similarly I would not leave the one-offs since these teams usually competed in other well supported series (IRC, Asai-Pacific in its heyday, ...)

    And finally I would go all the way back to the 70's, interestingly you had many works team but probably none was doing more than 5-6 events per year (true to say that during this era, they were a lot of non championship events with better entry list than the WRC/ERC.

    If you are sheltered in place as we now are (again) here, this is a good way to. use your week-end ;-)

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    The story of how Sťbastien Loeb could have been a Subaru driver in the WRC

    However, with the arrival of Loeb to the Bahrain Raid Xtreme and Prodrive, it has come to light that the relationship between David Richards and Sťbastien Loeb goes back a long way, specifically from Seb's first steps in the WRC, when the British… He tried to sign him for Subaru! At that time, the person in charge of the structure based in Banbury was the one who decided the steps of the signing of the stars in the World Cup, so his attempt to sign him was a risky bet in search of a replacement for a Richard Burns that he would leave the team's discipline at the end of that year.


    From no to Subaru to the story of a spite:

    The structure lost the World Champion, who had a contract signed with Peugeot for 2002, while Petter Solberg was still in training and a Markko Martin that had a year full of mishaps and that would end up leaving for Ford to complete the team with Carlos Sainz and Colin McRae. Loeb decided to decline the appetizing offer to sign for Subaru full-time and form a structure with what would be his great rival for the 2003 title, opting to remain at CitroŽn and do a part-time program at the World Championship in 2002.

    Subaru chose at the time to sign Tommi Mškinen after Mitsubishi's disastrous move to WRC regulation. On France TV Loeb was asked if he thought precisely that this refusal to sign for Subaru could have influenced Subaru's claim in the 2002 Monte-Carlo against Loeb and the CitroŽn team. In that edition, the sports commissioners of the event applied a two-minute penalty for changing tires in an assist (Service G of only 10 minutes) in which it was not allowed.

    loeb-citroen-wrc-2002-1

    His team had changed tires before the Xsara WRC made the short drive to the Parc Fermť in Monaco so they had not gained any kind of competitive advantage. However, those two minutes made Loeb lose the lead, with a penalty that remained in the air due to the possible appeal of the team, believing that it was too severe a punishment for an error that Guy Frequelin himself admitted for a team that he had practically just made it to the championship.

    Finally, the appeal would be withdrawn on Monday to "preserve the good relations between CitroŽn and the FIA" and Tommi Mškinen took the Monte-Carlo victory in 2002 ahead of a brilliant Sťbastien Loeb who had to wait for Germany that same year to savor his first World Cup triumph. Precisely Loeb has pointed out that the insistence to punish that mistake was more on the part of the Finnish pilot than of the one who is now his boss, David Richards.

    Ford and Volkswagen also tried to sign him:

    loeb-race-champions-2008-ford-focus-wrc

    It was not the only time that history could have turned upside down, since after CitroŽn's decision not to include him in the team's plans for 2019 after the fall of Abu Dhabi as a "main sponsor", Malcolm Wilson tried a second time to sign Loeb, again with the same result he obtained in 2005, when even Sťbastien did a test at the wheel of the Ford Focus RS WRC in the summer of that same year in the forest of Greystoke, very close to the headquarters of the M- team. Sport in Cumbria. History is already written and Loeb decided again for CitroŽn, even if this meant racing in 2006 under the colors of the private Kronos Racing structure. It would be nice to know what was the intrahistory of his possible signing for Volkswagen at the end of 2011

    https://www.diariomotor.com/competic...to-subaru-wrc/

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