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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Honestly, there’s little point to compare with F1; they have a grid to fill and they’re mainly interested on drivers money to do it…

    Despite Citroen pull out, the WRC is not living a sudden crisis and next season can be as exciting as the previous ones. Still, it makes total sense to question the series future, especially the new rules for 2022 and the promoter expansion plans; a thread about it was open a couple of weeks ago https://www.motorsportforums.com/sho...422-WRC-future , why not use it?
    But WRC have an entrylist to fill.

    Well, the crisis to me is that suddenly there´s not enough seats for all the 10-15 drivers fast enough for top five places, if you understand what I mean?
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    That's even worse than the first concept...

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    Way too much redbull...

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    So, who is a safe pair of hands, who likes to throw the car at the scenery, what cars are more reliable. Here is a list of dnf's for the factory drivers this year. Does not include rally2, feel free to edit and add.

    Ott Tanak, Toyota - 0 dnf's
    Seb Ogier, Citroen - 0 dnf's
    Dani Sordo, Hyundai - 0 dnf's
    Pontus Tidemand, M-Sport - 0 dnf's
    Craig Breen, Hyundai - 0 dnf's
    Takamoto Katsuta - 0 dnf's
    Thiery Neuville, Hyundai - 1 dnf
    Jari-Matti Latvala, Toyota - 1 dnf
    Seb Loeb, Hyundai - 1 dnf
    Kris Meeke, Toyota - 2 dnf's
    Teemu Sunninen, M-Sport - 2 dnf's
    Andreas Mikkelsen, Hyundai - 2 dnf's
    Elfyn Evans, M-Sport - 2 dnf's
    Gus Greensmith, M-Sport - 2 dnf's
    Esapekka Lappi, Citroen - 4 dnf's

    Toyota - 3 dnf's
    Hyundai - 4 dnf's
    Citroen - 4 dnf's
    M-Sport - 6 dnf's
    Last edited by Norm75; 6th December 2019 at 13:14.

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    Rally 2 finishes inserted below
    Drivers split into 2 groups part and full season drivers
    DNF + Rally 2 finishes added together to determine order now listed in

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm75 View Post
    So, who is a safe pair of hands, who likes to throw the car at the scenery, what cars are more reliable. Here is a list of dnf's for the factory drivers this year. Does not include rally2, feel free to edit and add.

    Drivers with part season

    Craig Breen, Hyundai - 0 dnf's
    Takamoto Katsuta - 0 dnf's
    Dani Sordo, Hyundai - 0 dnf's & 1 rally 2 finish
    Pontus Tidemand, M-Sport - 0 dnf's & 1 rally 2 finish
    Seb Loeb, Hyundai - 1 dnf
    Andreas Mikkelsen, Hyundai - 2 dnf's
    Elfyn Evans, M-Sport - 2 dnf's
    Gus Greensmith, M-Sport - 2 dnf's


    Drivers with full season

    Thiery Neuville, Hyundai - 1 dnf
    Ott Tanak, Toyota - 0 dnf's & 2 rally 2 finishes
    Seb Ogier, Citroen - 0 dnf's & 2 rally 2 finishes
    Kris Meeke, Toyota - 2 dnf's & 1 rally 2 finish
    Teemu Sunninen, M-Sport - 2 dnf's & 3 rally 2 finishes
    Jari-Matti Latvala, Toyota - 1 dnf & 5 rally 2 finishes
    Esapekka Lappi, Citroen - 4 dnf's & 2 rally 2 finishes

    Hyundai - 4 dnf's & 1 rally 2 finish
    Citroen - 4 dnf's & 4 rally 2 finishes
    M-Sport - 6 dnf's & 4 rally 2 finishes
    Toyota - 3 dnf's & 8 rally 2 finishes
    Last edited by KiwiWRCfan; 7th December 2019 at 03:42.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan View Post
    Rally 2 finishes inserted below
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    DNF + Rally 2 finishes added together to determine order now listed in
    Stopped reading this list after the first line, craig breen 0 dnfs, so you would think as the original list states he doesn't throw cars into the scenery? Anyone remember myherin on rally gb?

    Lists like this are unfair and pointless

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    Breen has bent his fair share of metal in the past...

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    Quote Originally Posted by go mads View Post
    Stopped reading this list after the first line, craig breen 0 dnfs, so you would think as the original list states he doesn't throw cars into the scenery? Anyone remember myherin on rally gb?

    Lists like this are unfair and pointless
    It's certainly not a definitive list, your right. Unfair, maybe a little as a dnf maybe car reliability related rather than driver error. Pointless, maybe that's a little too far. I think it's quite interesting to see the facts written in black and white, we sometimes see things a little unfairly against drivers we perceive to crash all the time when the reality may not be quite so bad.

    Anyway, dorna have released the crash statistics in all MotoGP classes (as they do every year) so I just thought it might be a bit of fun to do the same for this seasons wrc drivers. It's there to take as you wish.

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