Page 222 of 336 FirstFirst ... 122172212220221222223224232272322 ... LastLast
Results 2,211 to 2,220 of 3353
  1. #2211
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    1,923
    Like
    1
    Liked 1,115 Times in 596 Posts
    Rallying never really needed manufacturers, they are only needed because of the stupid homologation fia-cashcow rules.

    Everyone should be able to build and drive a car as long as its build according to the rules, just like in wrx or f1 or dakar or lemans or..

    The forced need for manufacturers aproval has been holding the sport back for many years now. Without that rule, we could have seen many private firms operating their own cars, just like ik most other motorsports.

  2. Likes: NickRally (10th January 2021),Rallyper (7th January 2021)
  3. #2212
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    849
    Like
    227
    Liked 591 Times in 314 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    Rallying never really needed manufacturers, they are only needed because of the stupid homologation fia-cashcow rules.

    Everyone should be able to build and drive a car as long as its build according to the rules, just like in wrx or f1 or dakar or lemans or..

    The forced need for manufacturers aproval has been holding the sport back for many years now. Without that rule, we could have seen many private firms operating their own cars, just like ik most other motorsports.
    mmm it seems to me that m-sport is the only name that fits. "open" section (as r4 kit) didn't bring out very much

  4. #2213
    Senior Member AnttiL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    9,625
    Like
    8,775
    Liked 10,522 Times in 4,616 Posts
    The difference between rallying and most other motorsports is that rally cars must be street legal. I'm sure that has something to do with keeping the manufacturers in the homologation process. Not sure though how they apply that to the scaled down tubular chassis of the 2022 cars...

  5. #2214
    Senior Member Mirek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Prague / Eastern Bohemia
    Posts
    22,491
    Like
    7,821
    Liked 11,137 Times in 4,419 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    Rallying never really needed manufacturers, they are only needed because of the stupid homologation fia-cashcow rules.

    Everyone should be able to build and drive a car as long as its build according to the rules, just like in wrx or f1 or dakar or lemans or..

    The forced need for manufacturers aproval has been holding the sport back for many years now. Without that rule, we could have seen many private firms operating their own cars, just like ik most other motorsports.
    Rallying in principle didn't need them but without them it would be just a minor sport. It's them who made it big thing with big money. So, yes, it can run without them but be prepared that the profile of the sport will suffer hugely.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

  6. #2215
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Posts
    1,203
    Like
    528
    Liked 747 Times in 381 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    The difference between rallying and most other motorsports is that rally cars must be street legal. I'm sure that has something to do with keeping the manufacturers in the homologation process. Not sure though how they apply that to the scaled down tubular chassis of the 2022 cars...
    Isn’t it so they can drive them on the roads between stages?

  7. #2216
    Senior Member AnttiL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    9,625
    Like
    8,775
    Liked 10,522 Times in 4,616 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    Isn’t it so they can drive them on the roads between stages?
    I meant that because of manufacturers homologating every rally car, they can be street legal. The current Toyota Yaris WRC is basically just a tuning kit added to a street Yaris. But if you had a Prodrive GT Turbo Rally1 or something, there wouldn't be a corresponding street model. But I don't know that much about these things.

  8. #2217
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    McLaren Country
    Posts
    336
    Like
    476
    Liked 158 Times in 85 Posts
    For what it's worth, I wouldn't care at all if we lost the road sections.

    I wonder what would cost more, making rally cars road legal or putting them on a trailer between stages?

  9. #2218
    Senior Member Mirek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Prague / Eastern Bohemia
    Posts
    22,491
    Like
    7,821
    Liked 11,137 Times in 4,419 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Morte66 View Post
    I wonder what would cost more, making rally cars road legal or putting them on a trailer between stages?
    Have you ever been to a rally? Where do you want to put those trailers? In at least half of the stages around the world there is nowhere to place some trailers dozens of kilometers around the stages and moreover some trucks with trailers may not even pass the road sections!
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

  10. Likes: AnttiL (7th January 2021),cali (8th January 2021),m-ast (7th January 2021),pantealex (7th January 2021),the sniper (7th January 2021)
  11. #2219
    Senior Member Rallyper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Östhammar, Sweden
    Posts
    8,078
    Like
    5,622
    Liked 2,833 Times in 1,607 Posts
    Easier then to let rallycars travel on their own between stages. But why should authorities bather. Rallycars has steering, brakes and safety zones for driver and passenger. They fit any traffic situation without having any question of being street legal. Authorities could easily let them drive without legalization.
    Last edited by Rallyper; 7th January 2021 at 15:10.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

  12. #2220
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    1,256
    Like
    5,319
    Liked 1,529 Times in 657 Posts
    No road sections and non-road legal wacky racer prototypes not based on road cars... Are we still calling it rallying?

  13. Likes: AndyRAC (7th January 2021),AnttiL (7th January 2021),Gregor-y (8th January 2021),m-ast (7th January 2021),T16 (8th January 2021)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •