Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

[AnttiL]

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2023/03/...s-single-runs/

Why are single-run WRC stages so rare these days? Do second passes of a stage cause smaller time differences or less crashes? Let's look at this question from different angles and statistics.

[the sniper]

Another factor in (admittedly usually depressingly unique) UK rallying is that forestry owners have charged less for a second run of a stage than the first, so a stage run twice is considerably cheaper than two separate stages ran once. Though to me, often the most significant damage to a track seems to be done by having a second pass...

[Gregor-y]

It's easier to keep the stage crew, emergency staff, timing equipment and cameras from having to rush around. And it's a bit easier to wrangle the spectators, too.

I kind of miss the panic of tearing down a stage and moving the crew to another location thirty minutes away - triple that for collecting everyone then stringing out marshals on the new stage - but that's because my normal work is much more relaxed.

[Rallyper]

It's easier to keep the stage crew, emergency staff, timing equipment and cameras from having to rush around. And it's a bit easier to wrangle the spectators, too.

I kind of miss the panic of tearing down a stage and moving the crew to another location thirty minutes away - triple that for collecting everyone then stringing out marshals on the new stage - but that's because my normal work is much more relaxed.

Well, in the 80´s they had over 50 stages in Rally Finland. Don´t know how many ran twice, but it wasn´t that many...

[AnttiL]

Well, in the 80´s they had over 50 stages in Rally Finland. Don´t know how many ran twice, but it wasn´t that many...

For example in 1985 there were 50 stages with three of them repeats.

But it's not the 80's anymore. The stages were in a very large geographic area so there were enough motor clubs and other volunteers to arrange them. The stages were generally very short, and the authorities didn't demand as much people working on the stages as today. And finally, people don't volunteer as easily today...

[fiscorpun]

ProDrive will exit Extreme-E to focus on W2RC and future projects
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[Rallyper]

Anyone here know where did our very good friend on this forum, Jan VanVurpa, go? Is he still alive and kickin´?
Jan Van Landingham is his real name I guess.

[240RS]

After Mexico, where drivers are concerned, you could say the sum of the parts at Toyota easily outweigh those of M-Sport Ford and Hyundai.

Briefly, here is what they all bring to the table:

TOYOTA
1. Seb Ogier - Reliability, Experience, X-factor
2. Kalle Rovanpera - Reliability, Experience, Hunger, X-factor
3. Elfyn Evans - Experience, Hunger
4. Takamoto Katsuta - Hunger

M-Sport Ford
1. Ott Tanak - Reliability, Experience, Hunger, X-factor
2. Pierre-Louis Loubet - Hunger

Hyundai
1. Thierry Neuville - Reliability, Experience, Hunger, X-factor
2. Esapekka Lappi - Experience, Hunger
3. Craig Breen - Experience, Hunger
4. Dani Sordo - Reliability, Experience

Toyota's blend means the Manufacturers title is safely in the bag. The driver's title is what will be interesting to watch.

If Ford can scrape some reliability, the speed is there. Forget what Ott says. He will remain a title candidate as long as the car gets to the end of the event without serious gremlins.

Neuville is playing the percentage game best. He has to be a strong favourite for the title if he can just keep Rovanpera in sight. He nearly always finishes events.

[Norm75]

You missed out Serderidis. What does he bring to the table other than money? Enthusiasm or comedy?

[dimviii]

#shittypirellityres

David Kelly
@DavidKellyRally
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8h
How did this not puncture? ��

On Saturday, a few drivers fell victim to some rocks that were pulled out by cars ahead on the stage

We hit one too - but didn’t realise til the stage-end the damage it did to the wheel - the tyre was still intact ��

Changed it and rallied on