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    You just can't put all of them in the same mix. Lappi is having an awful season, it can only be compared with Latvala's who had much more bad luck than him. Mikkelsen didn't do two rallies but he accumulated bad results throughout two seasons.

    Loeb? You must be joking.

    Meeke was the only one until Portugal who finished all of the rallies. Not bad season at all although not great too.

    And Suninen is doing pretty good so far, you can not expect miracles from him but his learning curve is going up by each rally.

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    Out of topic so just the completely off parts:
    Quote Originally Posted by Pršljen View Post
    Loeb? You must be joking.

    Meeke was the only one until Portugal who finished all of the rallies. Not bad season at all although not great too.

    And Suninen is doing pretty good so far, you can not expect miracles from him but his learning curve is going up by each rally.
    Loeb - 2 good rallies (Monte, Chile), 3 bad (Sweden last WRC no teampoints; Corsica 2 crashes, slowest Hyundai, no team points; Portugal 9th when technical issues hit, slowest Hyundai all weekend, crash on PS for no reason)
    Meeke - 4 crashes in last 4 rallies, one 4th place as best result, 1 good rally (Arg) , 1 ok (Mexico) 5 bad.
    Suninen - 4 crashes in first 3 rallies, no pace in Argentina, 2 ok rallies (Chile, Portugal)

    For the others it's:
    Latvala - 1 (even that is questionable) / 6
    Lappi - 1/6
    Mikkelsen - 2/3
    All have more bad rallies than good this
    season.

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    Yes, but Lappi is the worst so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    I am not saying he is doing good, he obviously isn't. But out of all factory drivers the ones that are without a doubt consistently doing their job are the top 3. Evans and Sordo are ok with ups and downs. All others have more downs than ups (Meeke, Latvala, Loeb, Mikkelsen, Suninen, Lappi). It's not like you can kick them all.
    I don't get how it makes Lappi's situation any better if others have had bad rallies too. "Look Pierre, you can't be mad at me, Latvala and Mikkelsen have performed poorly as well". Ok, but in all seriousness, I think Lappi's situation can only be compared to those two. Whether Loeb scored any manu points in Corsica or how many times Suninen crashed in the first three rallies is totally irrelevant in this context IMO.

    Bottom line: Lappi has all the tools to become a genuine title contender but no-one has unlimited amount of chances (apart from JML perhaps). It's enormously frustrating to see a talented driver waste his prime (not saying Lappi's doing that, but the early signs are there) just because he can't get his mind right.
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    What could you expect from him if he is driving that car. (lappi, citroen)... Get real

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    The issue is really that with Citroen only running two cars they really need both of their driver's to produce the goods.

    Ogier needed help from Evans and Suninen to last year at M-Sport, even if it was dropping behind him sometimes if he's had an off or issue.

    Lappi never seems to be in a place to help in this way, let alone taking points off Tanak or Neuville...
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    Toyota was much more suitable car for Lappi, wonder if it's possible for him to go back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnb View Post
    Toyota was much more suitable car for Lappi, wonder if it's possible for him to go back?
    1)He has 2-year deal with Citroen

    2)All current Toyota drivers are currently faster than him

    3)Everything is possible if...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnb View Post
    Toyota was much more suitable car for Lappi
    The team not

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    im reeaaaaallllyyyy curious to know what exactly was going on there between Toyota and Lappi but i have understood that you guys wont share it.



    But yeah, when talking about Lappi, horrible season so far, 3 retirements out of 7 races, last in the standings out of the drivers who are doing a full season.

    Last year Breen had also 34 points after 7 rounds, but the difference is that Breen had to skip two events because of Loeb whilst Lappi has done all the rounds.

    I really hope he gets back on track soon, i like the dude a lot, great humour and talent, you dont win a rally only on your 4th event without talent.

    But it seems he is mentally in a really bad place at the moment. All the time in a bad mood. Fingers crossed it changes.
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