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    Poor Lappi is just collateral in all of this.

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    Hopefully they will pay Lappi's contract for the final year.

    He should get a drive with M-Sport as that wont cost them much.

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    Also this point is hard to understand from both Citroen and VW:

    https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/nove...9--12-12-.html

    "The statement added that customer activities would be 'reinforced' next season.
    "Building on the experience and the competencies of PSA Motorsport teams, Citroën customer competition activity will be reinforced in 2020, with a support and an amplified commitment towards C3 R5 customers throughout the world," it said."

    What is the point of reinforcing the brands presence in R5? When on same time they most likely deny privateers using Citroen in WRC, just like the VW did (homologation just as an excuse).

    This does not make sense in brand perspective, neither it will in sense that for many R5 clients, R5 is serving as a ladder to seek the WRC seats, the seats that Citroen has now self-destruct simultaneously. "Citroen, we provide solutions to reach your dreams that we have just demolished."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Japé View Post
    Also this point is hard to understand from both Citroen and VW:

    https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/nove...9--12-12-.html

    "The statement added that customer activities would be 'reinforced' next season.
    "Building on the experience and the competencies of PSA Motorsport teams, Citroën customer competition activity will be reinforced in 2020, with a support and an amplified commitment towards C3 R5 customers throughout the world," it said."

    What is the point of reinforcing the brands presence in R5? When on same time they most likely deny privateers using Citroen in WRC, just like the VW did (homologation just as an excuse).

    This does not make sense in brand perspective, neither it will in sense that for many R5 clients, R5 is serving as a ladder to seek the WRC seats, the seats that Citroen has now self-destruct simultaneously. "Citroen, we provide solutions to reach your dreams that we have just demolished."
    The vast majority of customer C3 R5's (like other R5's) are bought or hired for use in national or regional championships.

    Relatively few are bought for use in WRC2 and even fewer of those are used by private driver's hoping to attain a seat in WRC1.
    #M-SPORTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWorm View Post
    I guess Ogier will never reach Loeb-status at home now, final nail to the coffin for that
    Agree, even if he wins next he won't be loved in France.

    In reality the main reasons in the long term are
    - half hearted commitment since at least 2016
    - Matton for development and choice of drivers in 2016-2017
    (only one experienced driver and supposedly not listened to, then not getting a single of the 3 free VW drivers)

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    Well, Tänak's move seems to have very serious consequences for the WRC... Very sad for Lappi.

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    Ogier couldn't do better with that car which had wrong developing driver - Kris Meeke who developed car for shunts not for titles

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWorm View Post
    Poor Lappi is just collateral in all of this.
    Lappi, JML, Ostberg, Meeke, maybe more drivers as collateral damage not to mention rally fans and the good of the sport. Now we lose many seats and have what t look forward to, 8 or 9 top flight WRC cars competing.
    This in my eyes is not a world championship, but an elitist championship where only a select few can compete.
    In fact, now we have two of the top three drivers in one team, Hyundai may as well toss a coin between either one of them and we just have a championship of two.

    As much as I don't like to see any manufacturer leave, good riddance shitroen. You handle Meeke poorly, you treated a 9 time champion who was a great ambassador for your brand with little respect in the end, and you have handled this badly by blaming your failure on pretty much the whole rally drivers competing in the sport, and now you run off with your tail between your legs having spat your dummy out and held the white flag aloft in the traditional cheese eating garlic smelling surrender monkey French tradition. Au revoir . . . and good riddance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barreis View Post
    Ogier couldn't do better with that car which had wrong developing driver - Kris Meeke who developed car for shunts not for titles
    That car has six victories: three for Ogier, two for Meeke, one for Loeb.. not bad company

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm75 View Post
    This in my eyes is not a world championship, but an elitist championship where only a select few can compete.
    Well what then are other world championships if not elitist? They are the best ones of their field. However, in motorsport we must accept that pure sporting talent alone is not enough, you also need to have money to compete on high level. Someone pays the bills in order to get marketing in return, and they have the right to stop doing so, if they don't consider it viable.

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